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‘Your body, my choice’: Women report rise in online misogyny following Trump victory
(www.independent.co.uk)
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Fuck my own mom said Kamala slept her way to the top today. We're done for awhile.
I don't even know yet how to parse the sheer lack of moral focus from the woman that raised me. Like it really fucks me up.
Same here. My Mom refused to vote for Trump but was unhappy about her vote for Harris because
I don’t know where to even begin, but fact checking one of her claims said that it was one persons Facebook post who never responded when asked for sources or evidence
Her father is black Jamaican. What did your mom mean by 'not black'? Was your mom being a racist because Kamala's mother is Indian?
"You can't be two minorities! That's not fair!" - Wine moms, probably
If you're mixed race, it's not unheard-of to be outcast from both groups... As fucked up as that is...
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c06k07dn1zjo
I've seen that sentiment and that she slept her way to the top. It's all just projection, racism and misogyny. Every trump vote was a vote for hate.
That was the craziest part. Supposedly there was a leaked report from 23andme showing she was genetically not black.
Whenever some stupid shit comes out of trump's mouth his minions go put out propaganda to make him be "right". They have bot armies to amplify their posts to spread themand make people believe it (plus his followers already want to believe it so their job is easy). Musk has made this very easy to do on Xitter.
So this is just another example. When he said she wasn't black and got made fun of, they rushed to put out propaganda on social media that there was a 23andme test showing she wasn't Black and "see? he was right!" and amplified it to spread it even more. They do that with everything, like after the debate they put out pictures of grills with meat cooking on them that they said were cats and everyone just believes it.
Circumstances like this make all too many of us shake our heads at the death of comedy, because “you can’t make that up. No one would believe it’s realistic”. But somehow it gets believed, and it spreads. Certainly part of it is new media with no standards or accountability, but people do need to have some sort of judgement.
If it’s too unrealistic to get laughs as a parody attempt, should I believe it actually happened?
She's a traitor too.
Woah, so let's just assume what she said is true. So in your mom's world the only way for a women to get to that level is to sleep her way to the top. That is pretty fucked up.
What is even more fucked up is living in that world she blames the women for it!? I can't even.
Even a precursory look at her record would show that is not even remotely true, but I digress. After all, we have a first lady (of the night) right now that actually did sleep her way to the top.
So I guess she has some reason to believe it happens. I just don't understand the hate. It is okay for this women to do it but not her, even if that is not what she did.
Perhaps the root of it is your mother is just racist. I think this really hits home for me as well. Growing up I believed my mother loved everyone being a self-proclaimed Jesus freak. Now that she is older she suddenly hates gays and loves Trump. It is hard to reconcile.
My dad went on a rant how Puerto Ricans are all lazy and just grift off the system to live off benefits. His only grandkids are born to a Puerto Rican, who passed the bar becoming a lawyer. (Prior to having kids with my only sibling)
Throw in that "no black people can raise kids", and it was enough for me to cut contact.
Won't let Puerto Rico become a state to advocate for their economic rights. Complains they don't do enough for themselves. We did the exact same thing to the Native Americans. It reeks of a slow burn genocide to be honest.
I believe Puerto Rico chose to not become a state most of the last 20 years. 2012 was the last real vote I remember. 55% or such wanted to become a state. But it was a small part of the population. 5% voted for independence. They are the world's oldest colony if I remember (Guam same time). End of the Spanish Civil War in 1898.
We joined WW2 because a territory like Puerto Rico was attacked. I'm not sure why people liked Hawaii so much more other than propaganda tied to it having a good military base location. Also, not saying people shouldn't have liked Hawaiins, just that clearly our view of the two territories is drastically different. I could almost guarantee the support percentage drops even more if it came to defending the people in Guam. Most people don't even remember they are a territory, more remember part of Semoa than Guam around me
That is not really accurate. The reason it has not become a state has everything to do with Congress. You can check out the Wikipedia page on it, I know I just did.
I found this tidbit.
"According to Christina D. Ponsa-Kraus, professor of legal history at Columbia Law School, some American legislators feared that racial mixing would occur among white Americans in the contiguous United States and non-white Puerto Ricans if Puerto Rico were admitted as a state. Puerto Ricans were restricted to limited self-governance—under a U.S.-appointed governor—and did not have U.S. citizenship."
So perhaps racism is really the deciding factor. It also played heavily into why the US did not take over Mexico for fear of blood mingling.
Perhaps those that oppose statehood have good reason though. Hard to join a country that seems to hate you
Why does that say they don't have U.S. citizenship? They are natural U.S. citizens. Also U.S. appointed governor sounds a fishy title for a governor that is voted on by only the citizens of Puerto Rico. So yes they are "U.S. appointed" but the U.S. citizens appointing them are the residents of Puerto Rico.
President Obama also went there and said he would support whatever they chose https://web.archive.org/web/20230124035101/https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/us/politics/15obama.html
Note: it may also be the easiest way to get a U.S. citizenship that many overlook. I have seen somewhere you can get a citizenship in PR with only 1 year of residency.
As for racism, yes that will exist for a few generations likely even after statehood, wish we could fix that but we backtracked a lot lately there it seems.
Yes she also uses the "she turned black" line as is if that shields Trump from his overt racism from that debacle. As if just accepting everything he says is fine means it's fine...
In real life she never acted like that. The more I think about it the more weirded out I get. I guess I didn't see it through my own numbness being it's just more common here.
you should tell your mom that shes a whore lmao.
Give her ass a reality check
That sucks. If you want an adoptive mom, I have lots of kids, what's one more?
Also this 53% number is fucking with me. I know so many white women and only one (70 years old) would vote for trump.
Every white woman in-law I have voted for him. I hate them all.
Appreciate it I'll be good. Things will settle.
I just hope she can reflect on what I said and why it bothers me.
I think I'll pass time by looking into helping others too though. Definitely be a better outlet for me than trying to waste time convincing Trump supporters of anything.
Not disagreeing and I like that approach. I do want to say, though, that I've committed myself to keeping track of some of the egregious stuff that's going to come and addressing it with the people in my life who voted for Trump and did not properly know / accept what that entailed.
To bring them back, I think we have to find (effective) ways to show them bad things they did not want to happen, that they helped enable, as they occur. It's tough because I don't want to turn every interaction into political badgering (and I won't), but there's no chance I can stay quiet as the great shitshow unfolds, either.
Yeah I think about how to resolve the issue but for now I think a bit of silence and me planning to move to a blue state are going to drive home the point as well.
It's not my point to manipulate people into agreeing with my side but like they HAVE to at least contend with reality and get back to some form of adult discourse.
I hear ya. Cheers and best wishes!