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OpenAI's Mira Murati: "some creative jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place" (mastodon.social)

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OpenAI's Mira Murati: "some creative jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place" And you stole everything from creative people who provided free texts, images, forum answers, etc. To date, your company has refused to acknowledge any credit. Rich people truly live in their bubble and have zero sympathy for fellow human or their livelihood.

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[–] Adalast -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I fairness, that is not how knowledge works, for anyone or anything. You don't know things without input. You had an education, you receive sensory input and are able to formulate conclusions off past experiences and information. This particular argument is simply a bad faith attempt at a jab. There are much better arguments against AI.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"that is not how knowledge works, for anyone or anything. You don’t know things without input"

That's not the argument though. AI's don't "learn" in the traditional sense. Their work is purely derivative. There is no logic or creative mind. They take something that exists, simplify it into algorithms and then spit out something similar.

Tomorrow, a brand new style of whatever could become popular. Without being fed the direct reference that AI would not be able to recreate it, depending on its complexity.

If you take away the source, AI will only work in the confines of its knowledge base. If the the only other inputs AI sees, is AI outputs, entropy is inevitable.

In the same light, I think what people will eventually find is AI will net creative jobs. Which is comical. To generate enough source material for the AI to "learn" something we will end up creating more then we would have to then just creating it in the first place. And use twice the resources to do it.

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For example, ask AI to make a image in the style of into the spider verse.

Now attempt to get similar results without directly asking it to mimic into the spiderverse.

Second, using AI for creative work is by definition a down grade. It has certain capabilities but their is no comparison to actual intelligence. Good luck to the schmuck capitalists that attempt to use it as a replacement rather than a tool.

[–] Adalast 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel as though you misunderstood. I was not defending her or AI replacing workers. I am staunchly against that and actively flight against it in my daily life. I was simply refuting the ontological basis of your argument. There are more errors in your rebuttal, but I will leave them alone.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a lot of words to say, "no you."

Good thing you referenced metaphysics, though, otherwise people might not get the point that you are better then me and that's the whole foundation of your argument!

[–] kaffiene 1 points 1 week ago

Hardly. AIs like LLMs and GANs very nuch reflect their training set. This is just a fact about how they work.