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The Mackinac Republican Leadership Conference often lures a who’s who of GOP power players to Michigan. Wealthy donors shake hands with presidential candidates, who give rousing speeches to packed audiences in hopes of winning the conference’s straw poll.

The event is typically a money-maker for its sponsor – the Michigan Republican Party – helping to fund get-out-the-vote efforts and support campaigns to get Republicans elected throughout the state.

But this year’s conference was decidedly different.

The only presidential candidate to show up was Vivek Ramaswamy, who was mostly polling in the single digits. The line-up of speakers included failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake; Zuby, a British rapper who occasionally appears on Fox News; and, conservative provocateur Dinesh D’Souza, who ultimately did not show up.

The biggest draw was actor Jim Caviezel, a promoter of QAnon conspiracy theories, who had a hit movie this summer but is perhaps best known for playing Jesus in “The Passion of the Christ” movie 20 years ago. He was paid a $110,000 fee to attend and give a 25-minute speech.

The event, simply put, was “a disaster,” said Warren Carpenter, an active party member and former district chair.

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[–] FlyingSquid 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you had to sum up the nation's conservatives in three words, "incompetent dumpster fire" would be those three.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd shorten it to just "dumpster fire"

[–] graveyardchickenhunt 6 points 11 months ago

Incompetent seems pretty spot on since it can't even burn the trash.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 44 points 11 months ago

The current GOP is only funding Trump and the States get nothing. Almost like a Dictator or something.

[–] NABDad 41 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I just listened to the This American Life podcast episode about this.

I enjoyed the schadenfreude, particularly listening to different people talk about how the new leader must be a deep-state plant put in place by the Democrats to destroy the GOP in Michigan. No, you dipshits, you voted for her to be your leader. You wanted someone who fully bought into Trump's lies about the last election, and (big shock) the person you chose is a complete moron.

There were also two Muslim dudes complaining that despite being elected to leadership positions in the Michigan GOP (they ran unopposed), they were cut out of involvement and planning. They claim it is because they are Muslim. The leader says it's not true, but they have screenshots of communications with her that back up their story. Got real "sheep desperately trying to support the wolf party" vibes from them.

We need more GOP organizations like this. Once the GOP has completely self-destructed, we can go to work on the Democrats, and maybe end up with a government that actually cares about people instead of billionaires.

I don't think it will ever happen, but it's still nice to see the GOP unwittingly destroying themselves.

[–] CluckN 6 points 11 months ago

I think I heard that one, didn’t they have a volunteer who kept saying she was cooking the books and they were going broke? They asked for a comment and she replied with something weird like, “Why answer your question when I have questions?”.

[–] Ibex0 3 points 11 months ago

Once the GOP has completely self-destructed

They're currently favored to win the WH and Senate. They already control the House and SCOTUS.

Self destruction has been predicted since Obama won in 2008, but they're doing pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I'm listening to it now lmao

The idiots can be summed up in one line from one of the GOP members talking about their frustration:

"What I believe isn't fact. I don't know what I believe anymore."

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

This is older news (the Mackinac conference was months ago). Since then:

  1. Karamo and the state party attorney are attempting to sue the trust that owns the local GOP HQ so she can sell it to pay off some of the party debt.

  2. Comerica Bank says the party defaulted on a big loan

  3. a state GOP in-person meeting had their venue cancel due to threats of Israel-Gaza war protestors showing up. Karamo was radio silent to party members and announced an online meeting at the last minute. This pissed a ton of folks off because Karamo does this to control who can speak during meetings. Anti-Karamo party members organized a separate in person meeting where they discussed removing her.

  4. it's revealed instead of the usual millions of dollars the party would have leading into a presidential election year, the party only has around $35k and over $600k debt.

  5. her running mate joined the calls for her removal and the GOP is gathering signatures for her removal.

Latest local news on this infighting:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/25/kristina-karamos-running-mate-wants-meeting-to-discuss-her-removal/72023000007/

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The biggest draw was actor Jim Caviezel, a promoter of QAnon conspiracy theories, who had a hit movie this summer but is perhaps best known for playing Jesus in “The Passion of the Christ”

This film is The Sound of Freedom, for anyone wondering.

57%/99% on Rotten Tomatoes. And $250M worldwide gross vs a $14.5M budget. Jesus Christ.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

I recall early on reports that said domestic theaters were sold out online but empty in person in the opening weeks. I don't think I heard too much more than that on what was going on beyond baiting the early numbers to convince many this was a big hit.

Still 250M worldwide seems pretty impressive for a Qanon hyped up piece with the inspiration of the project being accused of sexual misconduct by 5 women and accusations of sexual groping of child trafficking victims in the process. But it turns out he had a Mexican judge state one of the victims was over 18 so the groping was a non issue? He was also resigned from the foundation he setup due to other issues.

Then one of the backers of the movie being accused of felony child kidnapping which was recently dropped I see due to a misunderstanding of the victim's families?

Amazing this movie got out of the gate with these issues. I do recall the theme being early on being if you didn't support this project you were a child abuser so it turns out that had a pretty big impact?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

To go deeper, this is a very fictionalized account of a "save the children" agent that has stated that he goes across the world and saves children from trafficing.

Of course, in typical GOP fashion, it come out that sexually harassed and abused often married coworkers, via unsolicited nudes and by coercing having ti have sex with him on "missions" as a "cover."

Also, the "child saving" was often a group of heaviky armed white men descending into a deeply poor and rural town flashing thousands of dollars to have young children brought to them, and its a point of contention that this might have generated new trafficking, not stopped it. The claims made about freed or saved people from the founder generally have no evidence or collaboration from anyone else, even the people saved.

He has since been ousted by his charity, and started a new one while denying all claims.

[–] Mediocre_Bard 17 points 11 months ago

She appeared at MAGA rallies and ran a failed campaign for Michigan’s secretary of state in 2022 with false claims such as the notion that “authoritarians” inside the US believe “that if they can corrupt battleground election systems, they can control America. This nefarious plot is real and it’s happening.”

Yes. That is what she is doing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I love how they grift each other. I also love how they elected a black woman to lead while being ignorant of the rampant racism with conservatives in this state. They all say they aren't and then in the next sentence say something disparaging about minorities.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

and, conservative provocateur Dinesh D’Souza, who ultimately did not show up.

Hey, maybe things are getting better.

[–] douglasg14b 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh look, the consequences of your actions.

Now that the consequences are reality and no longer predictions, think the voters of Michigan will realize their folly and self correct?

[–] Twentytwodividedby7 5 points 11 months ago

What the fuck are you talking about? MI flipped blue for Biden and the House, Senate, and Governor all flipped blue

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

This is the analogy I've been using for years.

Nixon's 'Southern Strategy' gave the base beer. Reagan upped the game and gave them grain alcohol punch, and George W. went with 100 proof white lightning. Trump gave them meth. You can have a functional alcoholic, but not a functional meth addict.