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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration fought back on Friday against what it calls “the proliferation of misinformation” by Florida’s Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

In a letter earlier this month to the FDA, Ladapo had questioned the agency’s drug approval and raised alarms about what he sees as the risk of potential cancer posed by COVID-19 mRNA vaccines. Ladapo, the leader of Florida’s health department, said he believed the drug delivery system used by mRNA vaccines could be an “efficient vehicle for delivering contaminant DNA into human cells.”

But a top researcher with the FDA released a public response to Ladapo on Friday saying the Surgeon General’s scientific assertion regarding the cancer risk is “implausible.”

“These questions (raised by Ladapo) are designed to scare people rather than investigate true science,” she said. “What we do know is that COVID continues to kill thousands of people every month in the U.S. I think he is doing a disservice to the people of Florida by trying to scare them into not getting a vaccine that can be lifesaving.”

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[–] RainfallSonata 60 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Can they take away his medical license (I guess Im assuming he has one. It's Florida, though, so who knows.)? Cause unless he's got scientific evidence to back his claims, they should limit his ability to practice.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is no national medical license, each state handles it alone. If you practice in two states both states need to license you - our license in one state does not transfer to a different one automatically.

Which is to say is in in charge of his own medical certificate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And as evidenced by FL, some States' process are corrupt allowing unqualified idiots to practice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

in addition the medical community is way full of itself and it takes a lot to delicense a physician and its easier for them to get it back. Doctors view themselves as elite and a doctor is to valuable to not be used. This is why it cracks me up around lawyer jokes and harping on lawyers. Lawyers get disbarred way more easily. Their community is much more likely to repercussions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Plus if you can't meet the requirements you just need to be wealthy and connected enough to create a new accrediting body which says you meet theirs.

[–] Facelesscog 4 points 11 months ago

I'm predicting right now that he will suffer zero (meaningful) consequences. I'm sick of it, but I've seen it happen often enough now to not be surprised by it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Medical licenses are issued by the state they practice in, not the fda. I'm guessing the Florida board of medicine has been stacked with DeSantis people. And then some quick googling confirmed it was the case:

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/578266-gov-desantis-is-reshaping-floridas-medical-boards/

https://www.flgov.com/2022/06/17/governor-ron-desantis-appoints-four-to-the-board-of-medicine/

https://www.flgov.com/2021/04/02/governor-ron-desantis-appoints-five-to-the-board-of-medicine/

I agree though, and there are states where medical boards would take your license for spreading medical misinformation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, it is.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It should be called "manslaughter" coming from an appointed medical official.

[–] AA5B 4 points 11 months ago

It does seem like the state should be liable for offering medical advice so contrary to prevailing medical knowledge

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

As a Floridian, I was disgusted to receive an email several month ago from the office of the Surgeon General advising against getting Covid vaccines and boosters knowing a majority of folks who receive this email will take this as best recommended practice. Folks, it is your choice, but please talk to your doctor to help guide you in such decisions.

[–] RePsyche 15 points 11 months ago

It’s just bullshit, trying to scare people, with queries that have no scientific basis. “Dr. Kawsar Talaat, an associate professor in the Department of International Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, says those three concerns have no scientific basis.

Her research expertise is in conducting clinical trials for a variety of vaccines to determine their safety and efficacy. “The COVID vaccine enters the outer part of cell and the RNA works there. It wouldn’t be possible for the DNA to integrate into the chromosomes since they are not even in same compartment,” she said. “Even if they were, the mechanism that allows that to happen is not included in the vaccine.” “

[–] Coreidan 1 points 11 months ago

Florida is one gigantic shit hole

[–] Awa 1 points 10 months ago

Just got an email about this from the Florida Office of the Surgeon General