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[–] ocassionallyaduck 300 points 6 months ago (4 children)

That is probably a slam dunk (minor) discrimination lawsuit. Your circumstances of birth, including the date, are not something you can be judged for.

Follow up with your ID or Birth certificate and ask "Excuse me?"

[–] [email protected] 167 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (16 children)

@ocassionallyaduck

@The_Picard_Maneuver

Not true in the US. They could ban anyone born in the entire month of April, or anyone who "looks like a pot smoker" if they wanted to.

Applicants, employees and former employees are ONLY protected from employment discrimination based on race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age (40 or older), disability and genetic information (including family medical history).

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I wonder if an argument could be made that birthdate is a component of your genetic information including family medical history? It is also potentially age discrimination?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Technically this is discrimination based on age.

They were born 4/20/(year). You could make an argument they are discriminating all people exactly (X) years, 4 months, and 2 days old.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 months ago (16 children)

It wouldn't get anywhere in the US. Age is the closest protected class, but only applies to over 40 in the US. Discrimination based on month and day of birth isn't actually illegal.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I honestly think there's a gray area here and it's worth talking to a lawyer if anything. There are certainly some protections for peoples under 40. Being denied a promotion because you're "too young" is certainly a protection. The catch is you have to prove it.

This case is easy to prove though if there are any laws over this.

Edit: but now that I think about it, this is only really a protection if you're already hired at the place. If you just slam the door on people before they can get in, discrimination seems to be legal.

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[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 35 points 6 months ago

Just set your profile to @ not US system and your birthday will be 20/4 instead!

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[–] Eximius 176 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They should not censor the company name.

[–] [email protected] 108 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But then you might realize it's fake.

[–] Custoslibera 28 points 6 months ago

What do you mean ‘Company Business Incorporated Pty Ltd.’ Isn’t a legitimate employer?

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 6 months ago (3 children)

"Nobody was born on 4/20 except Hitler. We do not wish to hire Hitler at this time."

[–] eager_eagle 70 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] c0mbatbag3l 51 points 6 months ago (4 children)

"However, the skillset has been retained in our documentation for future potential expansion into potential expansion."

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 6 months ago (4 children)

What always ticks me off beyond reason in mails like these is the "we genuinely appreciate your time and effort in...."

Fuck. You. With. An. Umbrella.

You don't appreciate shit, you're full of shit, yet you're too shit to even just say what you really want to say: fuck you, we don't give a damn. Because being actually honest might also be bad and cost money.

Companies like there are the worse and should all burn in hell

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Glad that won't happen to me. I was born on January 6th.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Now I'm imagining someone legitimately putting their Jan6 involvement on a resume.

Window Structural Integrity Tester (Jan 6th, 2021): Responsibilities included - unconventional team-building activities, conditioning, navigating unfamiliar territory, and breaking down barriers.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

This can't be real. There are so many red flags this is fake. 1) Everything is censored. 2) GIS (Google image search) lookup only shows reddit and linkedin. The linkedin post is just as vague "learned a colleague received this!" 3) It's too good to be true. it plays on current fears. 4) It's just so dumb.

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[–] Sunfoil 68 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Is this not completely illegal? Dunno about the USA, in the UK age is a protected characteristic and you would be fucked for trying this. If it's real ofc.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is most likely fake.

If this was automated, a company automating rejection emails would never write the reason for rejection. It would be a vague excuse like "not a good fit for the role".

If this was not automated, then no recruiter would be this stupid.

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[–] Etterra 67 points 6 months ago

You should have left in the company name. Shame them publicly.

[–] Spaceballstheusername 63 points 6 months ago (23 children)

Wait who puts their birthday on a resume?

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago (10 children)

Under GDPR you have a right for your application to be reviewed by a human rather than an automated rejection. Is there something like that in the country maybe?

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[–] regdog 59 points 6 months ago (5 children)

On the one hand this is a bad that this happened to you, because the reasoning is completely idiotic.

On the other hand it can be a learning lesson that it's better to write your birthday as April 20th, and never as 4/20.

PS: Please name that company publicly. Maybe write a short mail to a website about tech news, like https://arstechnica.com or https://www.wired.com. You could also try the blog https://boingboing.net

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

Seems like they should really keep using 4/20, seems like an effective pre-screening tool for places I don't even want to walk by, let alone work at.

[–] recapitated 29 points 6 months ago (4 children)

But that's still Hitler's birthday, which is very unprofessional.

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[–] Meta_J 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Publicity will help prevent such major oversight. This is the problem with using AI for hiring practices instead of real people. Applying to jobs in the 2020s with a college degree, experience in the field, required employment history, and certifications STILL feels like applying for credit cards online with bad credit due to AI prematurely denying many applicants on frivolous grounds before it even gets to the recruiters email/web portal. That being said I don't think this person is the person who received the email themselves they are just posting it here.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (7 children)

If you're in the US and can afford it, Talk to a lawyer.

This is blatant discrimination of a immutable attribute which is a Civil Rights violation.

This is written evidence to that fact.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really hope OP goes through with the lawsuit because of how funny it is. I want to see it make big news

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[–] Smoogs 57 points 6 months ago (3 children)

“Nobody wants to work anymore”

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[–] madcaesar 56 points 6 months ago

We genuinely appreciate

🤣You obviously don't you dickheads

[–] taiyang 51 points 6 months ago

Reminds me of my sister getting in trouble for saying she had to go at 4:20. It was deemed "unprofessional". She has a appointment, lol

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I fucking despise the fact that AI almost exclusively is responsible for throwing out 99% of all resumes before they reach a human being

[–] RGB3x3 31 points 6 months ago (11 children)

This isn't just AI. AI doesn't care about jokes or memes or "professionalism." This was either a review by an actual human that didn't realize people are born on April 20th or an AI told to reject resumes with that date in it.

Either way, it's a really dumb person that set this rule.

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[–] assassin_aragorn 47 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well I'd certainly say they dodged a bullet

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Local company? Send it to the local news. They'll jump all over a reference to end of days AI.

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[–] Crack0n7uesday 47 points 6 months ago (6 children)

If that's real and in the US that's age discrimination and you can sue, and easily win, even if they say it's not your age, but the date of your birthday it still would fall under discrimination based on age.

[–] procrastitron 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Age is only a protected class if you are 40 or older.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (4 children)

My dude, that is not a company you want to be working for. On the bright side.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago

Well, I hope that this gets someone in shit.

[–] surewhynotlem 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's embarrassing. Ping their recruitment team on LinkedIn.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ping their recruitment team on LinkedIn

This is such a weird way to say "post this screencap publicly on LinkedIn and tag their entire C-level team"

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[–] kamen 42 points 6 months ago

"Choose a better date to be born on next time, okay?"

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Historical fun fact: this is why Hitler was rejected from art school in Vienna.

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[–] dipshit 35 points 6 months ago

That’s the great thing about AI, it’s like a human! Humans don’t need to work anymore because our computers speak like us now! It’s only ever really a problem if someone reads what AI wrote.

But if you don’t read it, wow, just look at the spacing, the typography, the paragraphs! the ~~tokens~~ words!

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Could this be considered discrimination? Rejecting applicant based on something they have no control over and unrelated to the position.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (4 children)

My oldest child was almost born on 4/20, but he decided to cook a little longer.

My wife was so relieved, lol.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (7 children)

LOL! I was born on 4/20 too (and so was Hitler, btw ☹️)

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