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Google develops selfie scanning software ahead of porn crackdown::undefined

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[–] gedaliyah 127 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The technology uses a phone camera to capture an image of someone’s face and calculate their likely age.

People about to view porn love to have their picture taken and uploaded to a database. I see literally no problems with this whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Would make more sense to do that on people in the videos. Prevent child pornography or teen nudes. Let teenagers watch porn, we did that in the 90s

[–] [email protected] 89 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh wow wtf is going on the UK. Prohibition never works , teenagers will be more interested in it. Ways to avoid and to overcome the system will appear.

[–] antidote101 89 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They've voted for conservatives 10 years running, even after realising that those same conservatives tricked them into Brexit...

...it's a pretty ridiculous situation.

[–] TheGrandNagus 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The annoying thing is that we haven't really voted for conservatives.

Because of FPTP, it's normal that ~35% of votes translates to having 100% of the say in governance, which is crazy.

And the worst part is that when multiple parties have anti-Tory stances, all that does is split the anti-Tory vote and hand the Conservative party more power.

I'm looking forward to next year when after 14 years of their bullshit it seems like they're finally going to be forced out.

[–] Uglyhead 12 points 11 months ago

Feelin the same here in the Land of Milk and Honey.

I know that people are scared and unsure, and that always leads them directly to authoritarianism (it did after the 1918 pandemic as well, seemingly). They want to feel safe. And any big liars and charlatans that tell them whatever they want to hear to satiate their fears, they’ll believe and follow. At this point I’m flummoxed. But I know that humans are built to adapt, and all this will all soon pass as well; in the big scope of things.

[–] pensivepangolin 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Like VPNs. Pretty simple.

Downside is it will push teens to free VPNs and those are almost always malicious.

Absolutely assinine regulatory decision brewed by people that do not understand how the world or people work at all.

[–] db2 22 points 11 months ago

They understand fine, but they're pandering to people who aren't capable of understanding.

[–] Xanis 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You know all those multicolored hats finding exploits and creating botnets and such?

Boy am I interested in hearing about some obscure specializations and hacks in about 10 years. I bet Jack Rhysider is already getting excited.

[–] redbr64 5 points 11 months ago

Fancy exploits... Or at first maybe just a 17 year old wearing a costume mustache haha

[–] pensivepangolin 3 points 11 months ago

Darknet Diaries is so good! I love his show.

[–] jopepa 75 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So they’re collecting photos of minors who are most likely naked to protect those minors from the dangers of porn? Flawless work; the children are now safe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It will probably say "by taking selfie I confirm that I am older than 18 or at least wear clothes" so it's fine (legally (maybe))

[–] LesserAbe -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you read the article it's not about naked selfies, it's about verifying the age of people visiting porn sites

[–] jopepa 3 points 11 months ago

I saw a sign up/pay wall so I didn’t bother, but on principle this is fucked up enough to baselessly mock.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The technology is seen as an alternative to entering a credit card or uploading an ID because it does not involve handing over sensitive data.

Yeah sure unless you consider the depiction your face to be sensitive data, which I do.

[–] Plopp 33 points 11 months ago

Nah just change your face if need be.

This message was brought to you by the plastic surgeon's union.

[–] CleoTheWizard 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I for one cannot wait for the hacking of servers used by these websites that will allow for the blackmail of politicians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I'm all for tracking and scanning of politicians devices. It will be a treasure trove of evidence for internal corruption and actual CP.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

Average 'Think about the children!!!' Enshittification.

[–] HexesofVexes 29 points 11 months ago

It's like the UK government is trying to get Chinese level content restriction without openly admitting it...

There's a lot more in that bill than just "protect little Timmy from the big bad titties". It also gives a duty to "protect" users from, and allow reporting of, "illegal content", and remember folks, whats legal today may well be illegal tomorrow!

[–] bmsok 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna lie, I learned some of my best moves by hitting that "Sure, I'm 18" button back in the day. Or I pirated it. And for previous generations, can you imagine age-blocking a box of porn in the woods?

Kids will find a way around this.

I'm not saying all of it is healthy but it doesn't necessitate a complete lockdown.

[–] Plopp 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, learning moves from porn. Like, we all know women love the finger fish hook in the mouth thing, the violent rubbing of the clit (until she has to physically move your hand away), the slapping of the face, the cock down the throat until she gags and phlegm comes out her nose etc etc.

I'm exaggerating, but still. Porn is not sex ed. Be careful with what you learn.

And I agree, the measures to prevent kids from seeing porn all seem very privacy invading and ineffective. Maybe education is the solution, but even the idea of talking to kids about sex seem to make people's heads explode for some reason.

[–] bmsok 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good sex as a whole is about experimenting, learning, respect, and, most importantly, consent. I personally wouldn't have learned how to be a bit creative without some help from porn.

Tips and tricks can lead to more fulfilling relationships.

[–] Plopp 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course you can learn things from porn. But you have to know what you're dealing with first or else it'd be like learning physics from a Marvel movie.

[–] bmsok 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's why early age sex education is equally important. Porn isn't going away. Being proactive and teaching that there are ground rules to consent and that "no means no" is huge.

There should always be a clear line between experimentation and outright molestation and that's what modern sex ed should be emphasizing.

"Do you mind if we try this?" or "I saw this in a porno, can we try it?" should be normalized just as much as "When were you last tested?" or the simple "Are you ok with this? We're about to have sex, right?"

*Molestation might not the right word. I struggled to come up with one. I'm settling on non-consent unless someone can come up with a better term.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, learning moves from porn. Like, we all know women love the finger fish hook in the mouth thing, the violent rubbing of the clit (until she has to physically move your hand away), the slapping of the face, the cock down the throat until she gags and phlegm comes out her nose etc etc.

Are you assuming all women dislike the things you've mentioned? Because that's not true, and you can take a trip to sex friendly commnunities for women and quickly find someone who "likes it rough" or whatever. You can say most people might not like that, and that could be true, but there are still people who do.

If you want to teach sex ed with a better focus on sexual pleasure, then you can do that in the last year of high school or college (when everyone has already reached the age where they can legally have sex), whichever is preferable. We don't expect to learn maths from a sci-fi movie, but it certainly can inspire smart people to try for new scientific advancements - just like porn can inspire people to try new positions and techniques, if we actually educate people alongside so they're aware of what is or isn't necessarily pleasurable to everyone and that you should ask and talk to your partners to get to know what they're into. Instead of just assuming what they're into.

[–] Plopp 8 points 11 months ago

As a member of certain kink/fetish based communities I absolutely am not suggesting nor assuming that no women likes those things. I know very well. Are you making the argument that it's a good thing for sexually inexperienced youngsters to learn those types of things from porn as if it's the norm in sex and as if most women likes those things? So that they then assume that's what most sex is or should be like?

And what I meant with education is that you can include porn awareness in sex ed, kids will see porn whether you like it or not, they should at least understand what porn is - that it's not an educational forum but a commercial product to make money and the people in it are acting. They should not see porn as a source of knowledge about sex nor the opposite sex.

Also, humans start experiencing sexual pleasure way before any arbitrary age of sexual concent. Sex ed has to take that into consideration. I learned a bit about sexual pleasure, how to put on a condom etc, in school, at the age of 11 or 12 and I'm very glad I did. I should also have been taught what porn is and isn't.

[–] TheGrandNagus 29 points 11 months ago

The Conservatives come up with these "think about the children!!" porn things all the time, make headlines that their retiree voter-base loves, then silently drop the proposed changes because even they know it's unworkable and idiotic. It's like clockwork.

[–] muntedcrocodile 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow i love the normalisarion of resteicting parts of the internet. Its almost fitting nineteen eigty four was set in london.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what it's like in the UK, but some countries block all porn websites. To all ages.

[–] muntedcrocodile 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We are headibg down a fucked path and its gonna damn hard to unfuck it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or, people will get more technologically savvy on average as they try to find their way to easy porn!

Porn always wins.

[–] muntedcrocodile 2 points 11 months ago

Im sure they will im more woreied about how the government responds to that tho? U need a licence to use a vpn ban tor how far are they willing to go in the name of protecting the children?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] Tangent5280 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think this might end up doing some good. Google unveils save-your-face-to-view-porn-inator, and some whiz kid somewhere will figure out a way to either bypass or fuck up facial recognition.

[–] Buddahriffic 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hold up a picture of an adult in front of your phone.

[–] madcaesar 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hold up a picture of a conservative politican, then dig in!

[–] Buddahriffic 5 points 11 months ago

Breaking: Porn verification service breach data shows that King Charles has a network of porn viewing accounts and is into literally everything.

[–] LesserAbe 7 points 11 months ago

It being a bad idea aside, couldn't teens just show the camera any picture of an adult? Supposedly the system doesn't save the photo anywhere, so how would it know?

[–] peopleproblems 4 points 11 months ago

Ha. And the UK will buy it too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago
[–] ben16w 2 points 11 months ago

How are they going to stop someone bypassing it by just holding up a photo of someone older? Like cameras can't tell the difference between 2d and 3d.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Imagine getting carded by your phones AI (random person on task rabbit) because you look to young to look at porn.