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the first actor in Star Wars that actually knew how to fight IRL

That also goes for Liam Neeson, who had already had a badass sword fight, check out his climactic duel versus Tim Roth in "Rob Roy". In fact, I believe that scene was key in his being considered for the part of Qui-Gon, I remember it being said at the time.

If you watch the clone wars TV show (highly recommend) the character definitely has more depth than what was portrayed in the movies. If you're interested in star wars character development. No better place to look than that show. You just have to suffer the first season a little bit. Since the series ages with it's audience.

Wasnt the actor for count dooku knowledgeable in regards to fighting?

And rebels. (I actually loved the scene where Obi owns him for a second time.)

It’s that lightsaber of his that pisses me off. It’s stupid. It’s like…. Worse than just having one blade.

yea no shit seeing 2 saber's was kinda dope also the robot (i forgot his name) who could wield 4 lighsabers

ever scene in their rudderless plot had good dialog, pacing and tone

"They fly now?"

Wasn't 7 more of a rehash of 4?

Prequels and Sequels are about equal in badness the same way the "left and the right" are about equal in badness.

Despite it's issues, the Prequels has iconic stuff, good world building. The sequels are a fucking mess with no redemptive quality.

I just watch Star Wars for the artistic creativity: words, species, spaceships, clothes, choregraphies, FX, sound design, music ... I except nothing from scenario and acting, because I expect it to be shit.

Hard disagree. Filoni made Ahsoka, which is trash. He's the executive producer of The Book of Boba Fett, which is trash. He's the executive producer and wrote some episodes of The Mandalorian, which started promising and then turned to trash. So yeah. He fits right in with anything Disney created.

filoni did a great job making the clone wars. i'll say that. i'm currently watching rebels and mandalorian S03 and am quite disappointed, as usual with newer star wars stuff.

the main thing is: they may not have a grand roadmap like i imagine george had. none of the newer stuff is really that coherent. it spends more time inventing new stuff that never gets expanded on instead of tying into the previously established lore.

the originals were never the greatest movies ever made, and that's fine. at least it all made sense. it was all explainable. it was coherent.

i feel lost when watching post-2014 stuff, maybe because the lore isn't established yet, but maybe because it just didn't get thought through.

Apologies for the wall of text.

Ehhh almost. The best Disney era stuff has been Mandalorian (S1) and Andor, which had, at best, Filoni consulting. Filoni's stuff is good quality but it's also fairly simplistic and self-referential, to the point of being almost masturbatory. I think Clone Wars is the best he's produced and it's 95% awful kids show with 5% very high quality storytelling mixed in, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt since it was literally intended as a kids show.

Prequels and sequels were pretty terrible for opposite reasons, as another poster has already mentioned. The original trilogy is pretty high quality, I don't think that's even debatable. While New Hope was a pretty bog-standard chosen one/heroic epic story, and maybe/definitely just a rip-off of Hidden Fortress, it gets all the credit for the blend of Eastern and Western themes and concepts. Additionally, for absolutely stunning special effects for the era. Empire is just objectively a good movie, and is definitely when Star Wars peaked. It's got excellent writing, directing, and cinematography, and did a phenomenal job maintaining the strengths of New Hope while doing a ton of work developing all of the characters and the universe. Jedi is... okay tbh. I put it about on par with the prequels although the Emperor is my favorite character.

The biggest problem imo with the Disney products lately is exactly that - they are clearly products intended only to capitalize on an already-successful IP, with nothing really to say nor any story to tell. Filoni doesn't have this problem, but he does have the issues above. If Disney can focus on letting creatives tell the stories they want to tell in the Star Wars Universe instead of just churning out products, I think they'll be okay.

This part of the brain is called the brobe. The probe probes the brobe.

Specifically, they had bad dialogue. The story was there.

I mean - look at the scene where Anakin finally changes sides. He walks in and Palpatine is on the ground, defeated and unarmed. Then Mace Windu decides to kill him anyway.

This is a betrayal of everything the Jedi are supposed to stand for. They're not supposed to be involved in politics. They aren't supposed to kill prisoners. What makes the Jedi better than the Sith? If both sides are the same, why shouldn't he side with the group that won't hold him back?

The "story* laid an excellent foundation across 3 films to bring us that scene.

Unfortunately the dialogue and the direction were shit the whole way through, so it didn't work.