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[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A person, easily. Worst case the authorities are involved and they're gone. Best case… well, let's not go there.

[–] dopeshark 31 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

I didn't talk about the best case…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get that the question is an either/or, but nobody’s acknowledging the likelihood of a 1000 cockroaches being in the attic because of a person.

Just not a living one.

So, maybe this one of those paradox thingys?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

No, it's before and after.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Person. It’s easier to seal up the hole they are getting in through.

[–] Sheeple 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And people can be reasoned with. It's likely just someone seeking shelter. I've been there in the past when I was homeless.

[–] cornflaku 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you were living in someone's attic?

[–] Sheeple 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was homeless. I did however also spend a few nights in an apartment complex' attic since the door wasn't properly locked

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Person, definitely. I can call the cops on a person, and keep my distance until they respond. 1000 roaches means.... fuck I don't even KNOW what it takes to tackle a roach infestation that big, but it's probably thousands of dollars and dozens of hours of labor.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What’s crazy is 1000 roaches isn’t actually a crazy big infestation

[–] saruwatarikooji 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you can see 1000 roaches... You basically have roaches for walls...

Seeing that many is a sign of a massive infestation that will probably get your home condemned.

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[–] Event_Horizon 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know what can deal with both situations effectively? Flamethrower.

[–] petersr 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But you only go to prison in one of the cases.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

1000 roaches

Legally speaking, it's a lot easier to kill roaches than a person

[–] Sheeple 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

I'll take the person. I lived with roaches in the past. Were impossible to get rid of and would keep destroying stuff including electronics. Not to mention the SOUND at night. Those 1000 roaches will also rapidly multiply to be way more.

I'm glad to be out of that place. In the person case I am sure I could either reason with them (If they're living in my attic out if necessity) or have the authorities involved (If they're a danger to me).

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even though I'm in an apartment and there's no attic, a human. Dead or alive, it'd be about 3,000,000 times quicker to get rid of a single person than pests.

[–] Aux 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It's easier to get rid of a single person, but murdering a human is a crime in most countries.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

What are they gonna do? Call the attic police?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

My ex-partner and I lived in their grandfather's house for a little while after he passed away. There were places we were not allowed like one storage room and the attic. We would often hear a radio come on in the attic and go off at various times and the occasional loud thump, and most weird was almost like sobbing, but we assumed it must be the old radio plugged in up there. Also every now and then his dad would "need to get into the attic" for no reason. The only access was on the outside of the roof through a trap door that was padlocked. My ex's birth certificate had an discrepancy on it that he had 3 siblings even though he only had 2. His mom said they just made a mistake, but he was 90% sure that his hidden sibling was living in that attic. I used to think it was a running joke, but looking back I think he was at least a little serious and I don't put it past his parents. They were completely insane and I'm glad he hasn't had contact with them in years (we're still friends). So roaches, def, roaches. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

[–] LuckyBoy 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you are not simple inventing a story for whatever reason you have, you should warn the cops...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Understandable because this is the Internet, but I do not drink enough to be a successful fiction author. I've just had a very interesting life. I would certainly do that if the house was still standing. They tore it down about ten years ago. This was 19 years ago and like I said I thought it was just an old clock radio with the alarm that would wake you up to radio the old man may have plugged in up there. He was pretty senile before he went. He kept his mail in the freezer. He had a tendency to purchase repeat items he didn't need like three of the same retro stereo or 20 cans of coffee each week. My ex and I had spent a couple weeks homeless so I wasn't super tuned in and I thought he was messing with me. We never really had enough evidence to prove anybody actually lived up there. I mean the place was infested with rats and mice so that could have accounted for the noises and I figured they were just slowly taking the valuables out of the place. We didn't stick around for more than a couple of weeks before his crazy mom ran us off. I just wrote it off as the overactive imagination of two people who were struggling and under a lot of pressure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Probably just an easier to deal with situation

[–] this_1_is_mine 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You're under the guise that somebody's going to actually get picked up for trespassing in your house and is going to end up seeing some possible jail time so that you won't have to worry about them but if they're actually having a mental health issue the local police departments will usually just cut them loose pretty quickly so they'll be back out on the street and probably back in your attic befor the end of the day....

[–] RampantParanoia2365 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No, I'm under the guise people have kneecaps, and I own a framing hammer.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only 1000 roaches? That's a lot lower than what I would actually expect to find.

[–] moistclump 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm from Buenos Aires and i say kill them all.

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[–] drmeanfeel 13 points 11 months ago

"finding" 1 person is probably 1 person total

"Finding" 1000 roaches? Buckle up

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

I'd definitely have roaches over termites.

[–] Pothetato 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My first choice was find a person living there...but what kind of person would I find? People come in many varieties, whereas roaches are predictable. The kind of person that would break in to live in your attic might not be the best kind...eh I'll still take my chances.

[–] Sheeple 6 points 11 months ago

The kind of person to break into your attic is honestly likely just someone looking for shelter. Statistically there's more drifters and squatters than dangerous people

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I live in an attic myself, so ... define "find"?

[–] i2ndshenanigans 5 points 11 months ago

Poison works on both but only one of them runs a chance of coming back without you knowing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (9 children)

100% a person. Someone would be shot alright, it won't be me and that'll be easier to deal with than the roaches. A phone call to the coroner and $5 worth of peroxide and bleach (along with maybe $10 of 5.56 or $5 of 9mm) is much easier than having to book a hotel that takes cats, move me and my cats, and pay a guy to poison my house, and trash or move all food outside the fridge (I assume, because poison), and the catbox, etc. And it's not just the 1000, if there's 1000 visible, there's way more.

[–] TheSambassador 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yes, because the trama of killing another human being is definitely fine and something you just get over with.

Also why are we assuming that the attic person is aggressive? Maybe they just need a place to stay.

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[–] Sheeple 11 points 11 months ago (23 children)

If someone is living in your attic you don't think they have already figured out what you are armed with and are more prepared than you?

I'd take the person over the roaches too, but a person living in your attic has a knowledge advantage AND knows where you keep your weapons.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Can't kill a human without repercussions, but everyone understands straight up murdering roaches.

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