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[-] xkforce 166 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The party of "patriotism" everyone. This is their guy... the same guy whose defense for trying to overthrow the government and install himself as dictator is "I never said I swore an oath to uphold the constitution"

[-] Blackbeard 51 points 6 months ago

Not just that, but the ones for whom the freedoms enshrined in the Constitution are the beginning, middle, and end of their entire personal identity. They have a section of the Constitution tatooed on their fucking bodies, and they still support a man who would just as soon use the damned thing as toilet paper.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago

If Trump can argue the technicality that he never specifically said "support", we can argue ths technicality that the 2nd doesn't specifically say "guns".

[-] TechyDad 14 points 6 months ago

It says the right to "bear arms." So if I want to graft a pair of cybernetically enhanced black bear arms to my body, I should have the right to do so! (As part of a well organized Bear Arm Militia, of course.)

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[-] TurboDiesel 10 points 6 months ago

Anyone who makes one thing^TM^ their entire raison d'etre is always a little... let's go with off for politeness. But the 2^nd^ Amendment ones are just walking red flags.

[-] kometes 9 points 6 months ago

Can penis size be negative?

[-] captainlezbian 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah but the guys who have that problem tend to be way less insecure than this guy

[-] ma11en 5 points 6 months ago
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[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The Second Amendment is so awkwardly worded. You can tell it was initially drafted, then the middle part of the sentence (third line on that guy's back) added in later.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

The us right wing is entirely the "there must be outgroups to bind and in groups to protect" mindset. Everything else is after the fact justification.

[-] orclev 118 points 6 months ago

The presidential oath of office that Trump was required to recite during the swearing in ceremony:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[-] radix 93 points 6 months ago

It dOeSn'T sAy "sUpPoRt"!!1! ChEcKmAtE lIbS!!

(I feel dirty now)

[-] [email protected] 73 points 6 months ago

That's literally the legal defence they are using.

[-] NOT_RICK 38 points 6 months ago

The “I’m not touching you” defense.

[-] TurboDiesel 13 points 6 months ago

See also the, "We'rE NoT A DeMoCrAcY" set.

[-] WindyRebel 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The 2nd amendment says nothing about guns/firearms. It was written as arms. It specifically talks about a militia and being able to keep things. It also says that we have the right to obtain the arms of bears (bear arms). There is literally no precedent to allow anyone have a gun.

It’s pretty explicit in what they wanted.


This is why trying to argue based on literal words, and not intent, is dumb.

[-] radix 9 points 6 months ago

Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution defines the powers of Congress, including:

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

According to the words of the Constitution, Congress can't appropriate any money to the Air Force.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

But didn't you see he had his fingers crossed? That means he doesn't have to do it!

[-] orclev 39 points 6 months ago

They're trying to play semantic games and claim that supporting is not the same thing is preserving, protecting, and defending. It's a laughably bad argument and hopefully it gets struck down pretty much immediately.

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[-] TechyDad 8 points 6 months ago

"Preserve, protect, and defend, but not support. Checkmate liberals!!!"

  • Some Random Attorney Trump Dug Up From the Bottom Of The Barrel
[-] anon_8675309 91 points 6 months ago

What a piece of shit. How can anyone support this trash?

[-] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago

Because they too are pieces of shit.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Or dumb. Or not paying attention. Or some combination of the above.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

they're paying attention to propaganda

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[-] rbhfd 22 points 6 months ago

Imagine being ~~brainwashed~~ bombarded on a daily basis with messages of how leftist will take over your country and how Trump will save them

[-] IzzyJ 5 points 6 months ago

I am. Still see through it

[-] HLMenckenFan 86 points 6 months ago

"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." - H. L. Mencken

[-] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago

wait, so does that mean he was never actually president?

[-] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

I guess his supreme court nomination are void then. Nice.

[-] themeatbridge 9 points 6 months ago

Worse than that, he wants the job again, and he's on his way to being the Republican nominee.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

He's going to win and he's going to finish the job of dismantling the United States of America. He's quite open about it.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate 8 points 6 months ago

Apparently the oath that military folks take actually has the word "support" in it, but the one the president takes says "preserve, protect and defend."

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[-] spittingimage 61 points 6 months ago

Donald Trump... the sovereign citizen of world leaders.

[-] HLMenckenFan 45 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

No, he is bought by foreign influence and has discovered a way to monetize dismantling the United States

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[-] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago

When are we going to collectively decide to excise the cancer that is Christian Conservatism in the U.S.?

[-] warmaster 7 points 6 months ago

All of these morons have happened before and all of these morons will happen again.

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[-] assassin_aragorn 5 points 6 months ago

Hopefully soon. Republicans have been losing big because of abortion, and they're incapable of controlling the narrative because the lunatics are running the asylum.

Generational change was happening slowly, and then the Republican conspiracy theories with COVID accelerated it as elderly red voters died who could otherwise lived. Abortion being overturned has lit a fire in young people to actually get to the polls too. Going all in on Trump has also irreparably tainted the party for upper middle class who'd otherwise vote for him.

I don't know if the history books will say it was 2020, 2022, 2024, or 2028, but I'm very hopeful that sometime this decade will be when American conservativism is rendered unviable. We just need one more big push.

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[-] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago

His supporters should be really mad about this. Generally they are the ones that invoke the Constitution anytime their lifestyle is inconvenienced.

[-] reagansrottencorpse 28 points 6 months ago

Yeah but everything they do and say is in bad faith.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver 28 points 6 months ago

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

[-] TheJims 14 points 6 months ago

His personality disorders renders him incapable of supporting the Constitution.

[-] xc2215x 13 points 6 months ago

Trump feels he is more important than it.

[-] carl_dungeon 8 points 6 months ago

He probably had his fingers crossed and his ears stuffed with gold cheese puffs

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ever think about how if Bill Clinton had called the mother of a recently KIA marine without knowing his name we would still be hearing about it?

I haven't heard about that since the month it happened.

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[-] wildcardology 5 points 6 months ago

I can't wait for the mental gymnastics MAGA people will do when they get asked about this.

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