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On Tuesday, the Texas Supreme Court will consider this question: Are the state's abortion laws harming women when they face pregnancy complications?

The case, brought by the Center for Reproductive Rights, has grown to include 22 plaintiffs, including 20 patients and two physicians. They are suing Texas, arguing that the medical exceptions in the state's abortion bans are too narrow to protect patients with complicated pregnancies. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is fiercely defending the state's current abortion laws and arguing that the case should be dismissed.

At a hearing in Austin on Tuesday, the nine Texas Supreme Court justices will consider whether to apply a temporary injunction that a lower court judge ruled should be in place. That injunction would give doctors greater discretion to perform abortions when a doctor determines that a woman's health is threatened or that a fetus has a condition that could be fatal. It would make more people eligible for exceptions to Texas's abortion bans, but it would not overturn those laws.

Dr. Dani Mathisen, 28, is one of seven new plaintiffs who joined the case earlier this month. She is in her medical residency as an OB-GYN and comes from a family of physicians, so when she was pregnant in 2021 and getting a detailed ultrasound test at 18 weeks gestation, she knew something was very wrong.

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[–] Fredselfish 65 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Fucking government shouldn't even be in this position. Abortions should be between the doctor and the patient and definitely doctor's should preform the Abortion when it is necessary to save the woman's life. Fuck the government when going overthrow these fucking facsiest?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

I want to point out that it's specifically Christian fascists that are the major driver of this. There is a powerful organization called Project Blitz that operates in the USA with the stated goals of removing separation of church and state, including the result of restricting abortion severely.

[–] captainlezbian 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

We need an explicit right to privacy. Basically not just codifying roe in the “legalize abortion” way (though abortion needs to be legalized), but also solidify the foundation of everything built upon roe. And it needs to be a federal constitutional amendment.

We took a lot of rights for granted that were built on the implied right to privacy. The government shouldn’t get to decide what medicines you’re allowed to take so long as they are prescribed by a physician in good standing following a reasonable interpretation of sufficiently up to date research. The government shouldn’t get to decide what you do in your sex life so long as everyone involved is a consenting person who has reached the age of majority. Certain things shouldn’t get to be politics and personal medical decisions are on that list.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

All medical decisions should be between a patient and their doctor, and governments and corporations should have no say in it nor have the ability to use force or coercion to effect any medical decisions.

[–] reversebananimals 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm pro-choice, but I don't agree it's that black and white.

I don't support, for example, the right for a MAGA doctor to feed a patient bleach or ivermectin as a COVID cure. I also think the FDA should exist.

definitely doctor's should preform the Abortion when it is necessary to save the woman's life

But this is absolutely true. Its wrong for the goverment to restrict or dissuade scientifically proven effective medical care.

[–] T00l_shed 5 points 7 months ago

I mean, I'd argue feeding ivermectin or bleach for covid isn't "medically founded" so I'd say the post above kind of covers that lol. I understand what you mean of course, and I agree with what you're saying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Internal medical ethics controls do a pretty good job of dealing with this kind of nonsense though. You're never going to get rates of that kind of insanity to zero, and legal regulations don't make it any better.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Performed when requested, no questioned asked.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

when it is necessary to save the woman’s life

This is where you stole autonomy. You were doing so well until you dictated terms over someone else.

[–] Fredselfish 13 points 7 months ago

No I believe woman should get abortion anytime and for any reason or no reason. But the argument the Supreme Court is going decide if one can be preform to save a woman's life and it shouldn't even be up to the Court to decide this.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Friendly reminder that Texas sucks. Republicans suck too.

[–] Buddahriffic 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Interpret "don't mess with Texas" in the broadest sense by avoiding it entirely.

[–] 1847953620 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Souyo 10 points 7 months ago

I'm escaping in less than a month, you got this!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I just escaped a couple months ago and haven't looked back. Safe travels, my friend!

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

And it was a hilarious one, with some funny subtext. The nature guy with a blowpipe shooting a redneck who was littering from a pickup truck? You can't tell me that isn't oddly reminiscent of some of today's fuck cars stereotypes.

[–] sirboozebum 13 points 7 months ago

Texas talks a lot of shit for a state that can't keep the lights on.

[–] Additional_Prune 12 points 7 months ago

"Are the state’s abortion laws harming women when they face pregnancy complications?" Yes. Will the Texas Supreme Court do anything about that? I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Still a state court, which doesn’t give me hope that this issue might be resolved. If it goes higher, I’m still of the opinion that it won’t. Why is it so hard for people to understand that this issue is between a woman and her doctor?