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At this point in election season, the political press starts making forays into the wilds of so-called Real America to try to find out what the voters are thinking. It can be an interesting exercise in the hands of journalists who have a feel for more than the usual "breakfast crowd at the diner" type of stories and find some insight that's helpful to understand the cross-currents that shape the electorate in any particular cycle. All too often, however, it's just a series of cliches and conventional wisdom, unfortunately.

We see tons of coverage of Iowa and New Hampshire, for obvious reasons. But when it comes to picking the brains of swing voters reporters always seem to head up to Wisconsin, the quintessential swing state. Back in 2020, just before the election, the New York Times sent a couple of reporters there to take the temperature of voters in the Badger State that former president Donald Trump barely won in 2016 to see what undecided swing voters were thinking four years later.

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[–] kescusay 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. NO. I will fucking crawl over broken glass to vote for Biden. He's not perfect by any stretch, but the nightmare orange clown shit-fucker is NOT going to make me apathetic. Fuck him aaaaaall the way to prison.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I'll limp my cripple ass from the East Coast to the West on foot if I have to, if some godforsaken SCOTUS decision declares that the only valid voting location is fucking Nowhere, Washington State or someshit. I don't love Biden. But I do love not living under a braindead fascist.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The apathy agenda is getting pushed really hard everywhere right now, even here.

[–] agent_flounder 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Along with the "VoTe tHiRd PaRTy" baloney

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've also seen the "moral abstention" types lurking on these posts.

[–] agent_flounder 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yup, I have as well. My client has a feature to tag users (since I can't remember usernames for crap) so I can see that a few accounts have been pushing these narratives pretty hard. I can only imagine how bad it is on Reddit lately.

[–] cmbabul 5 points 10 months ago

I just got blocked by one of them yesterday after breaking down in granular detail why a third party vote for president was a waste

[–] someguy3 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What exactly do you see?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah why is that? I'm assuming it's just shills for the clicks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it benefits Republicans to convince people that voting is pointless and they should stay home. That's why they're making it so hard to vote if you live in a district where Democrats are likely to win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Make sense. Of course that means we should be voting harder. If it didn't matter they wouldn't talk about it

[–] Candelestine 16 points 10 months ago

Putin tries to convince the Russian people that they can't stop him too. He's actually right though, his draconian grip has become strong enough that the little guys have very poor odds of surviving for long, if they challenge him. Even the bigger challengers get shot out of the sky.

Not here though. Not yet. They don't have the numbers to pull this bullshit off, and they've pissed us off enough to prove it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I like how it’s not actual doom and gloom, it’s evil actors making us think this.

It’s not like the earth is dying while we all go broke, it’s Putin’s fault.

And, no, voting third party or for Trump won’t be better. But Biden and all the Democrats in the world won’t stop it.