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On Tuesday, Florida state Rep. Ryan Chamberlin introduced HB 599, a bill that would ban government employees from being required to use the preferred pronouns of their colleagues, prohibits the penalization of employees on the “basis of deeply held religious or biology-based beliefs,” and makes it unlawful for nonprofits or employers receiving state funds to require employees to undergo training on matters of sexual/gender identity or gender expression.

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[–] FlyingSquid 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So I can go to work for the Florida government and call Ron DeSantis a she and if anyone complains, I can say it's because of my deeply held religious belief that he's a woman?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Citing the fact that she wears makeup and high heels would also be acceptable, I believe.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

And it’d be illegal to provide education on why conflating those facts is inappropriate

[–] SinningStromgald 18 points 1 year ago

Really they mean only THEIR personally held religious beliefs of white christian nationalism are valid and we all know Jesus hates trans people. It's in the Bible, or something, right after he tells the poor to fuck off with his AR-15.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 9 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: right now, you can call up Miss deSantis and call them a punk little bitch and he just has to accept it. Let her know it's called free speech, and if they have a problem with it, then maybe don't be such a pussy.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always remember: When something starts out as "to protect the children" (as dubious as that claim often is), it's always to get the foot of fascism in the door.

[–] captainlezbian 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah they’re never arguing for free school lunches to protect the children

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

But they will argue for ending free school lunch programs.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

You can already just be a dick and use the wrong gender for everyone. If you want to be a hateful bigot and use the bible as protection for your hateful views, you can. You can just be the awful right wing person you are, but people will not like you.

Stop voting for Republicans, all they have is hate turned into laws nobody wants.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biology based beliefs? Like the Florida state government employee who was fired for abiding by her sincerely held biology beliefs when she was publishing accurate Florida COVID numbers?

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/29/884551391/florida-scientist-says-she-was-fired-for-not-manipulating-covid-19-data

[–] captainlezbian 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the Covid numbers weren’t oversimplified for 14 year olds biology so it doesn’t count. Same reason they’ll fire any government employees who follow AMA/APA/WPATH guidelines for trans people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

She should have used more pictures, I guess. Reading is hard.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope she understands what she's asking for

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every place I ever worked asked me what I wanted to be called. And calling people by the name they prefer is just a sign of teamwork and the ability to work together. (A valuable work skill) Who would want to call people by pronouns or names they don't prefer?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The worthless #fascist symps that #DeSantis has installed in all the various agencies.

[–] doubletwist 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bill that would ban government employees from being required to use the preferred pronouns of their colleagues,

Ok, so time to just start calling EVERYONE by the 'wrong' pronouns...

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty much.

This "war on words" is so stupid. Like, say whatever the term the person wants to be called.

Didn't realize Florida reps is such snowflakes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They're not snowflakes, they're assholes.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

The party of small government ladies and gentlemen or other.

[–] captainlezbian 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So as someone who deeply believes in the validity of trans people both on a religious and biological basis would I be exempted from being forced to misgender colleagues?

[–] Burn_The_Right 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have been permanently banned from c/Conservative.

[–] captainlezbian 2 points 1 year ago

If they ban all the communists on here how do they expect to have anyone left?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

...aaand the Republican mustache-twirling continues

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Very on brand, as the core tenet of Christianity is being a judgmental asshole.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this seems like it will fail spectacularly.

[–] Zerlyna 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Dill pickle seasoning?

[–] CharlesDarwin 2 points 1 year ago

These disgusting qons just cannot help themselves, can they?

[–] Additional_Prune 2 points 1 year ago

It is my deeply held biology-based belief that every Republican politician is in fact a giant cockroach from another planet wearing a human skin suit like Vincent D'Onofrio in Men in Black.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The law originally prohibited classroom instruction on issues of gender identity and sexual orientation in pre-K through the third grade.

In barring tax-exempt groups from conducting “any training, instruction, or other activity on sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender expression,” the bill could have negative repercussions on nonprofits, medical clinics, and advocacy organizations that work with members of the LGBTQ community.

“Just like the original ‘Don’t Say Gay’ they make vague terms with large penalties to chill speech.

This latest attack is a continuation of DeSantis’s censorship agenda which attempts to erode our basic democratic freedoms in order to appeal to a far-right base,” Smith added.

Harding, who sponsored the state’s original “Don’t Say Gay” bill, resigned from office in 2022 after being indicted on charges related to Covid business relief fraud and money laundering.

Chamberlin, who replaced Harding via a special election held earlier this year, did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Rolling Stone.


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