Spez's leadership is clearly leading Reddit in a bold, new direction... down.
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2023
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Bold new direction. LOL that's a good one.
I can't believe they gave the job to such a clueless and arrogant leader. At this rate, it's not a matter of if, but when Reddit is going to crash and burn like Digg did.
Most likely reddit is holding out till the IPO. Getting a new CEO beforehand would cause some chaos. Stability is what saves valuation. Reddit's recent instability is what is messing with its worth.
Then reddit can blame everything on their scapegoat: spez. The old CEO gets a nice severance package for acting like the villain reddit needs till all the new changes are in place. Even if the CEO was not the only one making these decisions.
The new CEO will remove a few of the harsh changes reddit recently made; but not all of them. The people then rejoice as the new CEO is "nicer" than spez and the evil villain is gone.
It's not like reddit can ever go back to the way it was; it wasn't making enough money to please its stakeholders. The preceding sentence is why the fediverse is so important.
I agree. They've already did this once before with Ellen Pao. She came in, played the villain and made changes that people didn't like, and then went away and was replaced with a "nicer" CEO.
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He was jealous of how low Digg, well, dug. So he's striving to dig(g) even deeper!
Thanks for the chuckle:)
I read before all this started reddit was valued around $10 billion.
Now it's already down to $5.5 billion.
These are estimates, since reddit hasn't gone public yet, there is no official market value.
Still I'm guessing that next week it will be valued even lower. Tomorrow is when the real shit hits the fan.
I wish more people weren't waiting until June 30 to tentatively make a decision or leave. I have a feeling many of them aren't leaving if they haven't already.
I made my decision to leave as soon as I saw how the app devs were treated. Been back only to edit all my comments to state what I think about spez & co. I’ve simply been waiting to add my little weight to the end of month exodus.
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IDK but we are close to finding out. In my experience people are generally bad at preparing. And only react when absolutely necessary.
I decided to leave when I saw how they removed entire moderator from subreddits. Abhorrent behaviour and completely unhinged. I was modding at r/steam for 7 years. Is this how you treat dedicated people to your platform? This shattered the relationship between users and Reddit admins to me. I only removed my account yesterday until they finally hit nail in the coffin with going forward to kill off third parties. I never really used Apollo TBH, but it’s the intent behind what they do that matters to me. Haha.
Sames, I was a mod for years of a super niche game community that died off with the sands of time. I was fully acclimated to the new reddit site and app by sometime last year, but watching reddit this past month has been like watching someone methodically and deliberately cannibalize their own limbs.
I wish I had had the time to fully switch sooner. But my life has been nuts, so I'm now scrambling between calls to get into the swing here.
Which is all just to say, some folks live crazy busy lives and can't switch as soon as others.
But also when I was initially going to switch, I was reading that kbin and Lemmy were getting overwhelming traffic, so I wanted to wait for that wave to calm down and ensure the hosts were able to keep up/recover
I was one of those people; the man reason being the lack of the less popular subreddits (magazines/communities?) on here. Some of my most visited spots on Reddit just don’t exist here. If I’m being honest, I don’t wanna make and mod them either. I’d partake in them, but running one isn’t in the cards. I just don’t have the time. I think those less popular subreddits are the ones that will hurt the most leaving behind.
we'll get there, it'll take time, but even in the 2 weeks that I've been bouncing around the fediverse, it's already gotten more interesting.
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5.5 billion ... BILLION that's with a B
Moderators are volunteers
Content is subject to right be forgotten
Management is mostly hostile and toxic
Management is driving away the content creators.
If they decapitated the management (not literally...well...no this is not constructive) and made the API cheap as balls, you might retain the existing users and pull half that are leaving back.
There's not 5B in advertising opportunity there. Any company that wanted to get out in front of their customers is already in there talking to them for free.
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"Tomorrow is when the real shit hits the fan." I don't know about that. I think it'll take a while and there will be several stages. Tomorrow the power users leave, and moderators might either do a lot less or disappear completely.
Then would be a rise in bots (i saw an AITA post i thought might be bot generated as i couldnt possibly think how "OP" could be anything but an asshole) and spammers, people voting might help keep some of that at bay while the users who browse by hot might still get what they want. Then there would likely be migrations of users.
I think people who go to subs like funny and AITA could still be there for a while, but i think the content will degrade and some subs i think have taken permanent hits in viewership. 4 months ago i could think of some where i'd consider advertising a product to a niche, but there's zero chance i'd be parting with money today.
I think the effects of this will be large and far reaching, but those looking to cash out are still steaming ahead for their IPO payday, and whatever happens from there will be the new owners concern. It'd be different if i thought they wanted to IPO and still hold a large share of the company, but everything im seeing leads me to believe thats not the case.
Tomorrow the power users leave
Today the app users are forced away.
We can already see lemmy.world has grown 15% or 8k users in half a day. If that's representative, the coming days will be worse for reddit than the blackout and protest period.
That was what I meant, that for reddit the shit hits the fan today for real, as in the consequences of their decision will hit harder when they are actually implemented.
Kylo Ren: MOAR
Well, that's a bit misleading. It was $10 billion in August 21. But all of the startup type tech companies have taken huge dives after that.
So the actual impact of the protests are yet to be seen. E.g. the value of Discord shrank even more than reddit.
I'm pretty sure I saw it valued at 10 bil 14 days ago.
Tech has gone down, then up again, since august, for instance alphabet is higher now than back in August.
I would have thought that most people who didn't want to use Reddit anymore have probably already stopped using it.
But yes I hope to see more bad news for Reddit such as this diminished valuation.
I’m not expecting people to leave in droves, but I imagine that as the quality of content, moderation, and overall tone declines a lot of people will gradually lose interest and stop visiting.
Dude really could have done this right and not essentially tell us in the “leak” that “oh we’re not losing money so it’s fine” - what a complete tool. I learned he doesn’t give a shit about us. Haha.
Oh I am SOOO looking forward to that shitshow 😂
Here's to hoping Musky boy buys it!
spez the business genius
That’s down 7.36% from the $16.6 million mark at April’s closure and altogether a slide of 45.4% since its investment in August 2021. The updated share value suggests a $5.5 billion valuation for Reddit.
"how low can we go?!"
- Spez, probably
Lemmy see
Aha yes excellent ‘punne’, or play-on-words
Lmao rip
Today is my last day as a logged in user on Reddit. Hope it is for many others as well.
I'll probably go back occasionally to delete comments now and then. Desktop only. Until I get bored or sick of it and delete my account. I don't have any of real worth, just doing my part. I've avoided the auto delete tools, as I've heard of plenty of issues.
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hah, rest in piss. spez got the elon musk syndrome
Spez so smart
We gotta pump those numbers up! Those are rookie numbers!!!
Pump them down*
RIP Bozo. People will absolutely leave your site if you take away the apps they have used for years.
It's even funnier that second time!
I still find it funny the number of Redditors who keep claiming that the protest was useless and "all mods are bad". They seem to legitimately think Reddit is doing better than ever, somehow.
what can i say except... nice 😏
It’s working!!! Keep up the good work protestors :)
Nelson:
HA ha.
I wanna see the current or former patrons of r/WallStreet short Reddit to oblivion on the IPO. Spez should realize that if you piss off a large group, they can hit back when you’re most vulnerable.
Elon: No one can fuck up a social network like me!
Spez: Hold my beer...
all the migration posts are nice to see, but you love to see Spez hurt in the only way he cares about: monetarily
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