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Elon Musk vows ‘thermonuclear lawsuit’ as advertisers flee X over antisemitism::Tesla founder threatens to take action against media watchdog ‘the split second court opens on Monday’

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[–] [email protected] 254 points 1 year ago (29 children)

What is wrong with him? I think he legit needs psychiatric help.

Maybe the people who get this rich due so at the cost of their mental health. Maybe it’s not healthy for a single person to hold so much wealth.

Deep down, does he know what he is doing is wrong? Is his Twitter behavior an expression of some negative feelings he can’t cope with?

[–] Earthwormjim91 186 points 1 year ago (20 children)

He’s always been a shit head like this. He just got rich enough that he thought he could get away with showing his true colors.

The dude comes from a family of slave owners and was born with a silver spoon up his ass.

[–] Subverb 32 points 1 year ago

Or, as former Texas governor Ann Richards said of George H. W. Bush in 1988:

'He can't help it, he was born with a silver foot in his mouth!'

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter 63 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What is wrong with him? I think he legit needs psychiatric help.

He is a Narcissist. Yes, that is a medical condition. He is thoroughly unable to recognize other people as equal. They are mere nuisances.

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[–] randomthin2332 50 points 1 year ago

Eh you spend your whole life getting away with anything because you have the money, you end up starting to believe your own bullshit.

One of the reasons so many people are rich is because they make money off the smart or the hard working. You never do the work yourself because you legitimately aren't the best person for the job.

I think Elon bought in too much during the wave of "I'm a tech genius who put a car in space, make electric cars and spaceships" and I think he actually believes he did that instead of the countless and thankless hours of all the real professionals.

The problem with this thinking, is now he feels like he ^needs to do something. Just like that micromanaging boss who doesn't help at all and just spouts random nonsense thinking it will magically make it go faster. But instead he's just self sabotaging the process.

This is what happens when you start to believe your own bullshit. If he was smart, he should walk away and let the professionals handle it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (11 children)

He's more and more turning into Trump minus the dementia. In Germany we have the term "Cäsarenwahn", for when someone loses touch with reality from having too much unchallenged power. Haven't found any English equivalent so maybe it's time for another loan word.

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[–] alvvayson 19 points 1 year ago

Excessive wealth definitely leads to bad mental health outcomes for the wealthy.

The wealth and power leads to their becoming detached from the rest of humanity. They start seeing others as objects instead of people.

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[–] Additional_Prune 193 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not just a lawsuit, it's thermonuclear lawsuit! His lawyers better handle it carefully, lest they be blown into itty bitty pieces. Elon stopped maturing at about the age of fourteen.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That my friend, is a insult to 14 year olds.

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[–] xantoxis 142 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You can't sue people for deciding NOT to patronize the service you sell, idiot

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 182 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's not suing the advertisers, he's suing a watchdog who's pointing out all the antisemitism and whatnot, which causes the advertisers to flee because in his world, none of it is bad.

[–] profdc9 49 points 1 year ago

Unless Musk gets a hearing in front of a judge who exposes his own sympathy to fascism, I can't see this case going anywhere. The truth is an absolute defense to libel.

[–] olosta 32 points 1 year ago

Yes advertisers are only publicly insulted not sued : “Many of the largest advertisers are the greatest oppressors of your right to free speech.”

I suppose that's meant to inspire confidence they will not be sued, only slightly bullied if they come back.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is one of those cases where even if he wins he loses. Who would want to sell ads anymore?

[–] ook_the_librarian 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, even if he has no intention of winning, the simple act of filing will cost any named watchdog media group money. I doubt too many are swimming in it.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's why there are SLAPP-back laws.

He's also got a habit of ignoring legal advice and running his mouth in public, so he's likely going to end up writing another big check for that misadventure if his lawyers can't talk him out of going through with it

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[–] ilinamorato 79 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Tesla founder

Ok look The Independent, I know that the company says he's a founder and Wikipedia lists him as a founder, but he's not. Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning founded the company almost a full year before Musk had anything to do with it. He had to sue them to add his name to the list officially.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Wikipedia lists him as a founder

Does it? I expected better of Wikipedia, so I checked, and both Musk's page and Tesla's avoid simply listing him as a founder by explaining the situation, i.e., that he was an early investor. Even the sidebar for Tesla, Inc. just links to a subsection rather than listing names.

Just a note to add, addressing a related talking point that inevitably comes up:

It's a very common piece of misinformation that he was determined to be a founder in a court of law. That never happened. It was part of an agreement to avoid a lawsuit. It's a lie that the relevant parties could all live with as part of a larger settlement.

I like to ask Musk apologists, "Do you need to found a company to be that company's founder, yes or no?" If they waffle or say "no," there's no point continuing in good faith, because they're not serious people. It's not hard to say "Okay, that's a bit of a fib, he should be called an honorary founder, but blah blah blah..." But if they can't even do that, then they aren't operating based on reality.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago

Sure, do it, Elon. Anything to make advertisers feel safer.

[–] 13617 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much for the free market and the ability to choose 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Musk is definitely the type to say "the customer is always right" when he's the customer yet apparently didn't realize that same thing applies to his customers.

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[–] douglasg14b 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This isn't technology news.... It's business news, and Elon spam.

Just look at the comment section how many comments are actually related to technology?

Can we not put the bar on the floor?

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[–] eronth 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Free speech absolutist, got it.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago

Nothing to see here. He definitely isn't suing them because he wants large advertisers like Dosney on the platform and to be able to say the worst shit imaginable at the same time. Clearly nothing to see, obviously. /s

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd imagine it would be rather easy to to prove wether that claim is true or not; show screenshots of said posts with these advertisements next to them.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That pretty much settles it as far as I'm concerned.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

So he's gonna sue his customers for no longer buying stuff from him? That's it, I'm suing all of you for never buying any Marxism-Fennekinism merch!

[–] ericbomb 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He's suing the company that brought attention to the nazi stuff.

Just as insane, but slightly different!

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Judge asks the hypernuclear question: "Have you tried NOT catering to Nazi's and racists?"

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, monday morning. So, where is it?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhh, good luck with that. The free market taketh, the free market taketh away.

[–] OrteilGenou 22 points 1 year ago

Let's hope it starts givething at some point

[–] Earthwormjim91 31 points 1 year ago (11 children)

There is absolutely nothing related to technology with this. Twitter is not a tech company. They produce no tech. They’re a social media company.

[–] Jakdracula 37 points 1 year ago

No, they’re an advertising company.

You (users) pay musk to display your original created content on his platform, your content is then used to attract companies that pay musk so they can display adverts to people reading your original content.

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[–] ikidd 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do it, you coward. Bet you won't because you're a fraidy cat that listens to his entirely rational legal team.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile Media Matters are absolutely salivating over the thought of what they can get in discovery. Never sue journalists unless you're really comfortable giving them unfettered access to your server logs, internal communications, and much, much more.

[–] Snapz 25 points 1 year ago

"Thermonuclear" you mean the word you used during one of your (many) most embarrassing public failure moments when the glass shattered?

[–] pottedmeat7910 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is going to be the best discovery since Einstein figured out how to put bubbles in beer.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

"Telling people what I do in highly visible public spaces is a violation of my rights in some way that I haven't figured out yet. Everyone has to like me and tell me what a cool guy I am. It's the law."

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