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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, if your ethics are for sale, just skip to the end and work for Meta so you can get dat 200k new grad comp package.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Companies with ongoing military contracts may be much more lucrative in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The pay is shit or at most on par compared to tons of web dev jobs in e commerce etc. I make more aligning divs than my friends in aerospace and defense who are leveraging their advanced degrees. Abandoning your morals hardly even pays ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Asclepiaz 2 points 7 months ago

To be fair, aligning divs was historically a labor intensive process. Damn kids with their flexbox don't even know...

[–] hansl 7 points 1 year ago

Companies, yes. Employees, no.

[–] candybrie 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is meta looking to hire a bunch of MechEs?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This would be more in the realm of CS

[–] dastechniker 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I applied to LockMart and they rejected me :(

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the last time, a picture of yourself riding a missile naked is not a job application. We are also seriously concerned about how you were able to obtain a missile in the first place.

[–] takeda 4 points 11 months ago

We are also seriously concerned about how you were able to obtain a missile in the first place.

Prior work experience

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Same here. Rejoice! For we have been saved from the MIC.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Taking your own fighting jet is a huge help though.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Most fresh grads just want to make enough of a living wage to one day afford a house. Morals can be fucking expensive.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

It very very much depends on the country you're from. In Ukraine a better slogan would probably be "my moral compass led me to Lockheed Martin"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some people would do much worse for even less…. Xd

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I saw a video about some incompetent, alcoholic spy the CIA hired that sold state secrets to the KGB that got 12 of his fellow agents killed all for the incredible sum of $25,000.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Does it come in Google?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

They're not wrong. still a difference.

direction is totally fucked though.

[–] MightyGalhupo 10 points 1 year ago

This implies you had one at some point.

[–] CyberDine 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In 2016 I started an entry level job in cybersecurity for a small Family-owned defense contractor making $55k. 7 years later in 2023 I'm working at one of the Big 4 defense contractors and I'm making $173K.

My degree is in criminal justice from a State School.

As long as you have a 4 year degree, can obtain Secret clearance, and can get CompTIA Security+ any defense contractor on the East or West Coast will take you.

Yes, I am a cog in the military-industrial complex which makes me part of the problem and not the solution, but I live comfortably and my family is happy, so I'll sacrifice my morals for them.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does one find a defense contractor job?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Step one: Throw away moral compass.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I at least appreciate the great stuff they make for the Ace Combat series...

Although maybe we could design cool jet fighter assets without designing multi-billion-dollar real ones first...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

My moral compass is calibrated to "Mad Scientist"

Evil Minion is a pretty good entry-level for that position