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[–] [email protected] 114 points 10 months ago (2 children)

not like Google has already tried and abandoned several instant messaging options over the years or anything …

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At this point they could pay me per message and I wouldn't use it. I'm not goign to convince people to move just to be rug pulled again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Move to an open, safe, user-respecting option like signal. Fuck using Google stuff for more than just this reason.

[–] Telodzrum 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Instant Messaging, in particular, has been a series of failures of both vision and design by Google.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/a-decade-and-a-half-of-instability-the-history-of-google-messaging-apps/

[–] Zak 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The golden opportunity was when Hangouts was the default SMS app on Android. The same technique has been very successful for Apple.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago

Seventh time's the charm.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm so confident that Google is just reskinning the same messaging app

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

it's not even IM this time, it's just email with a different input

[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yes that's what Google needs. Another messenger service.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago (1 children)

2 months later…

This week in technology, Google abandons yet another project. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago

finallly what google has been missing, an instant messenger application/protocol.

thanks google for really finding a gap and filling a need.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Google Talk flashbacks anyone?

[–] ArgentRaven 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Google Talk, Google Chat, Google Huddle... Some of them even integrated with Gmail.

Seems like a dumb idea to try again, when already established chat systems that won't vanish in a year exist.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also Allo, I used to use that app, it was very clean, but no one I talked to heard of it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like everyone who knew enough to know about Allo was also acutely aware that Google would probably kill it, and it would really suck to move friends to an app that’s just gonna join the graveyard with the dozen others

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Makes sense, I just got my first android and that happen to be the app that Google was promoting heavily at the time

[–] anlumo 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] stown 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hangouts still works. I believe it's their longest running chat app.

[–] Crashumbc 2 points 10 months ago

Really thought they killed it many years ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Google Wave?

[–] tdawg 32 points 10 months ago

I'm so fucking tired of companies trying to "innovative." Just give me my shitty government provided email service already so I can ignore it like I do snail mail

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Another potential to the google graveyard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gmail is a part of Google's subscription plan. It won't.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

They don’t even have a desktop app for gmail chat. Whatever they do, they’ll abandon.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

No way I'm using a new Google product ever again

[–] flop_leash_973 24 points 10 months ago

Just what a successful Google service needs, to be associated with the failure that is their messaging platform attempts.

[–] SquiffSquiff 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is a feature available in outlook desktop application at least for Mac

The irony is of course that Gmail did used to be essentially an instant messenger until Google decided in their wisdom that on Android you should not be notified immediately you receive a message

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

Will they succeed in making even Gmail fail?
I can already see memes with the Gmail icon and the obvious "task failed successfully"

[–] foggy 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You can react to emails with emoji right now. At least on Android.

Which at first I thought "thAts fucking dumb"

But now I can react 👍 instead of sending stupid, loathsome 'Thanks!' emails.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But what happens if someone sends you an email from a non-gmail account? Can you react then?

If so, does it just reply to this email with an emoji in the body? Cause then you're basically just replying in the exact way as before, google just added a quick-reply button with a predefined body.

I'm personally not a fan of nonstandard functionality for something as ubiquitous as email. Email should be exactly the same regardless of the client that's used.

[–] foggy 5 points 10 months ago

They get an email that says "foggy@gmail reacted to your email with 👍"

[–] killeronthecorner 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Assuming this is aimed at business use: good, but too little too late.

Tacking on chat features isn't going to bring businesses back from Slack and Teams. The ship has sailed. Email exists as a lowest common denominator and a way for lead generators to harass people who don't actually make procurement decisions.

Email won't die but it's on indefinite LTS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

hahah thats exactly what this is. they got caught with their pants down on slack and now theyll never get market share.

[–] vinniep 5 points 10 months ago

The bit that kills me is that “make Google Chat not suck” doesn’t seem to be in the list of options for addressing this problem at all. I work for a company that uses GSuite and chat is universally loathed with a bunch of Slack instances running around the company, both sanctioned and unsanctioned. If they spent time working to improve chat, the momentum of being a GSuite company would carry the rest of the weight here. It doesn’t have to be better than Slack, just closer.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

XMPP/Jabber says hello. Remember how they used it but didn't want to allow you to use another Jabber client?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

They won't support markdown for another 10 years and invent their own thing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Last month the popular webmail app shipped an emoji reactions bar in the mobile app, where a single tap would send a new email with your emoji response.

Now, a wild new UI experiment spotted by Android Police goes another step further: a quick reply bar that looks just like instant messaging input.

Rather than the usual input block you get for writing paragraphs of overly formal text, this new Gmail experiment has a one-line input bar at the bottom for replies.

An "expand" button will presumably launch the usual compose interface.

So far, this seems to be an extremely rare test that only one person has gotten, so it will not necessarily roll out to everyone.

Given the recent emoji launch, though, Gmail certainly seems jealous of its instant-messaging cousins.


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[–] Treczoks 6 points 10 months ago

What's the problem with that? You can reply to any mail at your convenient time. It is not a telephone call.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The only reason I use Gmail at this point is because it's the only Android email client that has an actually nice, modern looking UI, other apps like K9 mail don't really look as nice as it.

It's annoying how they try to integrate Google chat into the app as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

anyone remember googles inbox app? now that was basically perfect and had no ads but they killed it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I know it might not look very modern but K9 mail is the most clutter free no bs email client I've ever used.

[–] Outsider9042 2 points 10 months ago

So… deltachat?

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