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[–] rickdg 127 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Take your money and spend it somewhere else. That’s the only sound corporations can hear.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

spends money in call of duty

[–] [email protected] 78 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I honestly don't understand people. Just don't buy the fucking game then.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You're taking about wow. That's like telling a junkie not to buy their next fix.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Tell me about it. This was a long time ago but I remember one of my friends couldn't even go a day without doing his dailies. He wasn't even interested in WoW anymore, he was playing a bunch of other games. But he absolutely had to login every day just to do his dailies then log out and play the game he actually wanted to play.

This went on for months. When we asked him why, he would just say he didn't want to miss out and fall behind. Bro, you aren't even interested in the game anymore...

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey, I finally kicked my WoW habit.

I mean I started FFXIV right after, but it's a start!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

We need a rehab MMO for them that gets them the same high but is easy to unhook from.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It's already too late. The time for us to shut this shit down was Diablo 4. Now that Blizzard knows their fanbase of rubes will pay extra for a headstart, expect to see this as the norm for all future releases.

[–] pahlimur 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm at Disneyland with my family RN and we mainly came because this week was insanely cheap for hotels. My hotel basically touches the convention center and there is almost no one here for blizzcon. It's dying.

The conversations I've overheard are so sad. They all justify simping for blizzard like addicts. So much random misogyny too.

I used to love blizzard games but just the people I've listened to concern me.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

It started long before. I remember boycotting d3 when the auction house came out and i stopped wow a decade ago because you are paying monthly for a savegame plus microtransactions.

I can buy way better indie games for that price or keep playing guild wars 2 which has no sub.

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[–] Yewb 56 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I didnt fall for it with diablo 4 this time, all my friends that blasted through it in a week are no longer playing and I can buy it when its $20 if at all.

Tired of anything from Activision blizzard at this point.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

do that with most games. life is bettee that way

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

early??? you fucks are a decade late

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And yet people will pay it and the cycle continues.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If they didn't stop from abusive micro transactions, half-ass launches, mocking players about mobile phones, overworked devs, a sexist frat boy culture, women leaving over sexual abuse, or a employee who committed suicide (!)... then nothing will.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink 8 points 10 months ago

The average player doesnt know about any of this. The average player doesnt think about these things. The average player is not you or me.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Poor Blizzard, they must be failing on hard times, after being bought for 69 billion dollars

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[–] Coldgoron 33 points 10 months ago

As entire guilds pay up and see it as a matter of clout.

[–] Smokeydope 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Can't wait for them do do it anyways and all the fans cave in because 'muh social escapism' gamers have some of the weakest spines, the most important point of boycotting g isn't being loud and whiney its to NOT BUY THE PRODUCT FOR FUCKS SAKE.

[–] eoddc5 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m not defending it, or blizzard, and reading the title sounded yucky

But my quick understanding:

Expansion costs $50

Next level is $70 which comes with digital stuff, mounts, etc

Top tier expansion is $90, which comes with even more stuff

So a $40 difference from base or $20 from mid tier

It also comes with 30 days of game time, so that’s $15

Now we’re looking at $25 difference between base game. Or $5 difference between mid and top tier.

So it’s really like $5 for more digital stuff and early access, right?

It would have been better to just make two tiers. Charge $75 for everything including early access and don’t include game time. Cause subscribers are going to pay for that anyway. I guess because a month of access is hardly worth $15 operationally, it’s a nice way to up charge

I haven’t bought anything wow related in like 8 years. So I don’t have a horse in this fight. The title is just a little click bait (I don’t think anyone thought it’s $90 for only early access, and assume it’s part of a $90 game cost)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not early access. It's late access if you don't pony up the extra.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Who pre purchases this early? The release date is “on or before December 31, 2024. Lol

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[–] qwertyWarlord 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh who cares anymore. Blizzard is going to do it, the players are going to lap it up with a smile. Just let it be and move on if it's not for you

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Yup. Stop playing Blizzard shit, you assholes. They don't care about you, in fact, they don't care about anything but money.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

I 100% understand the need to charge for these services, but how much profit this IP has generated should have secured all funding for future expansions and more economical pricing.

Subs should drop to $5mo with expansions starting off at $20ea. Hell make the "Classic" servers F2P.

I'm gonna make my own mmo, with a TCG and Furries.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

Why do mmo's always have the best trailers but the shittiest graphics?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So it's more accessible. You don't need to upgrade your PC regularly to play an MMO.

Beyond that, WoW is very stylized, and it's far from ugly. No, it's not realistic looking, but it is nice looking.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if you have checked out WoW lately, but it's actually a pretty beautiful game. I think generally they want the tech specs to be a low barrier to entry for a game where they want millions of players playing concurrently. It also cannot be super heavy or things like raids and battlegrounds would chug.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

One thing that Blizzard has always been good about it making games that can run on a potato. It'll look like crap and your view distance will be obnoxiously short, but you can run WoW on a potato of a laptop and still participate in the core gameplay. Obviously, there's lots of options to crank up the graphics to 11/10 if you have a powerful computer, but I really appreciate that they lower the hardware barrier to entry where they can.

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[–] givesomefucks 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

World of Warcraft: The War Within was announced alongside two other expansions as part of the Worldsoul Saga at BlizzCon 2023, and first impressions from players seem to be pretty positive, with one notable exception: nobody's happy about the idea of paying $90 for three days of early access to the new content.

There are three ways to purchase The War Within. You can get the $50 base edition, or you can upgrade to the $70 heroic edition if you want access to a bonus mount and transmog set. Or, if you want even more digital goodies, you can grab the $90 epic edition, which includes some other tchotchkes, plus 30 days of game time, guaranteed access to the beta, and three days worth of early access to the expansion itself.

It's three days early, and the $90 includes a bunch of other stuff.

If you don't want to pay it, don't.

The only downside in the article is other people might get it. The less people who buy it the less it matters

So just have guilds boycott it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Three days headstart if you're playing competitively is huge. Is this preaccess going to allow people to start leveling? If so literally all hardcore guilds will require it from their raiders.

[–] TheTetrapod 9 points 10 months ago

MMOs hurt my brain sometimes.

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[–] Lemmygizer 8 points 10 months ago

Yup. Headline is a bit misleading. But I guess saying $40 extra which includes a $10 game time voucher and guaranteed beta access doesn't grab attention the same way.

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[–] Shade 13 points 10 months ago

Blizz is making increasingly more shitty games, and without shame also increases the price in tandem with the shittyfication. People should have understood it by now, but for those who haven't, it's time to abandon ship.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you have been playing WoW since release and have all the current expansions, $90 is barely anything! /s

[–] Sydius 7 points 10 months ago

I mean, yeah...?

If wow is the only game you play, and you have spent decades on it, it really is no money at all.

It still doesn't make it right to lock the release behind a 90€ purchase.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Did they lift that subtitle from Warframe?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Don’t just say it, don’t pay for it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's very shitty. Starfield did this, but it's not the same to do it for a singleplayer game than to do it for the competitive multiplayer part of the fanbase who will try to rush the expansion.

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[–] Illuminostro 7 points 10 months ago (12 children)

I had a friend who paid $100 apiece for 2 "Collectors" versions of the Warhammer MMO 15 years ago. We were both in the beta. I knew it sucked. He had delusions of being a guild leader.

[–] Schal330 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think one of the great things about the WAR collectors edition was that you got some excellent merch with it. You got a metal figure (worth around £40 these days), a really good art book, a mousepad (I used mine for many years) and a graphic novel. Sure the MMO was a failure largely in part because EA acquired Mythic and forced the game out the door, but the collectors edition was well worth its price for people that love Warhammer.

The cost Blizzard are charging for a game with digital assets that cost nothing to duplicate is genuinely awful.

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[–] user_2345 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry... The YouTube content creators you watch and support will do it for you.

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