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I remember, assholes (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago by SuckMyWang to c/[email protected]
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[–] mean_bean279 184 points 10 months ago (4 children)

  • The US military heard it and didn’t necessarily want to give away capability of listening devices around the sea floor.

  • The sub was difficult to get to the debris field because it was at an incredibly deep section that few craft are capable of reaching safely.

It was frustrating they made a big deal about something we ultimately could have done nothing about in the first place. However it’s not like the whole “hearing the implosion” thing was something the military wanted to give away and at that depth we have to be careful. Don’t forget we’ve put more people into space than have been to the deepest point on the planet.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don’t forget we’ve put more people into space than have been to the deepest point on the planet.

Fun fact, space is easier. It takes more effort to get there, sure. Coming from the "normal pressure" here on earth (about 1 atm) and going to space (0 atm) is a pressure difference of 1 atm. But: Diving into the ocean, the pressure increases the deeper you go. For every ~10 meters (~33ft) you go deeper, the pressure increases by 1 atm.

That means, that a space ships would only need to dive 10 m deep to get to the pressure difference it experiences in space. They went to see the Titanic which is about 3,800 m deep. So the sub needs to withhold a pressure difference that's about 380 times higher than a space ship experiences.

(OK, little difference I omitted: In space you need to prevent the vehicle from exploding, while in the deep sea you need to prevent it from imploding)

[–] TheOgreChef 70 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The atmospheres of pressure gag on Futurama is still one of the best that show ever did.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Good bot!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

"Anywhere between zero and one" kills me every time

[–] mean_bean279 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yup, it’s part of why the idea of rescuing them was never going to happen either. There’s only something like 3 subs in the world that can dive to that depth and they weren’t close enough nor built for rescue missions. Even if they were alive they only had 3 days worth of oxygen. Honestly they’re lucky that the “sub” just imploded rather than dealing with the slow loss of oxygen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure about that, hypoxia could be a fun time. CO2 poisoning would just be sleepy... So not as fun I guess. Waiting to die would definitely be lame though.

[–] MotoAsh 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Try again. High CO2 is highly uncomfortable. You cannot catch your breath, headaches, confusion, body has to deal with blood trying to go more acidic... CO2 poisoning is anything but a nice nap.

[–] XeroxCool 9 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Your lungs don't burn when you hold your breath because O2 is low, they burn because CO2 is high. Any other gas to displace the O2 is undetectable (aside from irritants and smells). It's why huffing helium doesn't burn but can make you light headed faster than you realize. That's why CO poisoning is so dangerous. CO2 poisoning is torture. And yet CO2 pits are still legal for kill pits...

[–] SuckMyWang 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So why did they reveal that info after if it was so sensitive? I wouldn’t have thought that would have changed anything. I also have vague memories of reports of a “sound” being detected early on but then not mentioned again until after. Then again my memory is trash so I dunno

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (5 children)

How quickly they process the information, how accuratly they could determine the source, and how accuratly they could determine the location would all be fairly sensitive information.

Basically what I'm saying is that if they announced right after it happened that "Hey guys that sub imploded at X depth and the debris field will be at Y location because we heard a pressure vessel of the correct size crush followed by the sound of something of roughly the correct mass crashing into the sea floor." Then everyone would know how capable our equipment is.

Basically announcing it days later gives a conclusion to the questions of what happened and also will likely keep others from meeting a similar fate. Not to mention the benefit of telling other countries that "Yes we can and will find out about what goes on underwater, just how quickly is more of a mystery... For you."

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Definitely thought this was talking about a subreddit and I got real confused there for a minute 😅

[–] pete_the_cat 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It isn't? I'm still confused what else a "sub" could be in this context...

Edit: after reading more it's "submarine", I've spent way too much time on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

A submarine. You remember the rich maniac who wanted to see the titanic wreck and didn't apply to any safety regulations since it's international water

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

*submersible

Submersibles, unlike submarines, have to be transported to where they are going to operate by a different vessel.

[–] flyboy_146 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you, I did not know that!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

yeah still getting used to lemmy, months later

[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Send more billionaires to see the boat.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)

2027 headline: "Craft carrying six billionaires lost at sea during voyage to see the wreckage of the submarine that went last year to see the wreckage of the submarine that went to see the wreckage of the submarine that went to see the wreckage of the submarine that went to see the wreckage of the Titanic in 2023."

[–] SuckMyWang 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Book now for the next layer of viewing! (And showing)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

"Be a part of history!"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

Tell them it is a tax haven

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I would like to nominate Bezos, Musk and of course Trump. Those would be my top 3 I think.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But why did you only name 2 billionaires

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I'll let Donnie slide on this one

[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What I want to know about that accident is, which idiot kept spreading the lie that the search teams were hearing "banging noises" every half hour, long after the sub had imploded.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Somebody was doing a little trolling

[–] Deiskos 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where's the meme

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Corporate media moment, dry humping us for ad revenue

[–] superduperenigma 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Remember when there was a boat full of migrants that sank around the same time and nobody in power gave half a shit about it even though it would've been way easier to locate and rescue those people?

[–] EdibleFriend 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mostly remember the non-stop memes from the moment they went missing.

Good times.

[–] ElectricTrombone 9 points 10 months ago

Controller disconnected.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And they were searching every fuckin where but the spot they went down

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

They weren't searching anywhere at all, because they didn't have a suitable submersible available. They were looking on the surface in case they popped up, but once the remote submersible got there, they went straight down to the wreck.

[–] SuckMyWang 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Easy there, you’re overthinking this /s

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do I remember one of the most recent media jippos? Or is that the joke..?

[–] SuckMyWang 1 points 10 months ago

Well, there wouldn’t be much conversation if you didn’t and yes Pepperidge farm remembers

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, Im still wondering if they ever had definitive results from their investigation of the wreckage.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The Logitech controller surely was not to blame.

[–] SuckMyWang 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ironically it copped a lot of flack but I don’t think it was

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Of course not, it's not like it was a Mad Catz controller. Logitech is at least a little bit better than that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I don't know, their new Hub software is kinda bad...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Probably still ongoing, it's not a fast process typically.

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