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[–] [email protected] 157 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Updated headline:
Does violate gag order, justice system to do nothing about it because rules don't apply to the wealthy

[–] FrostyTrichs 84 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As it turns out he may not be wealthy either lol.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's does not violate the very narrow gag order set by Justice Engoron, because AG James is not "court staff." That doesn't make it legal, doxxing could be charged in either New York State or Federal court (because James is a State employee, and an "officer of the law").

But it won't. Nothing is going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Imprisoning a former president for contempt of court, even as blatant as this, is always going to be a topic of skittishness among the judges.

This is an institution that typically loathes setting new precedent when it can avoid it, and imprisoning a former president, one who is running again especially, is a Rubicon that is going to intimidate even the most tough on corruption judge you can have on that bench.

The sheer unprecedentedness of this case and the others involving trump are gonna go snails pace simply because of how freaked out the judges will be over making sure every i and t have been dotted and crossed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They're setting a precedent either way.

Either hold decorum over the individual or abandon it.

How Trump acts, and what he is allowed to get away with, is carte blanche for his followers paying attention.

If you want to be wealthy, act like the wealthy, right?

The judges either have spines or they don't. In that same vein, we either have laws that apply equally, or we don't have respect for the law across the board.

This is remedial psychology.

[–] CosmicTurtle 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As much as my justice boner is deflated by this statement, I'd rather have Trump convicted by a jury while having a competent attorney making smart decisions and defending him zealously. The last thing I want is his conviction to be overturned because someone took a shortcut.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Why? The law should be applied equally, prince or pauper.

I don't give a fuck about tradition and precedent - a traitor as the head of the nation is unprecedented too.

Gather evidence, make a case, throw the book at him - with stiffer sentencing solely because as a former president, he SHOULD be held to a higher standard.

Just like cops should be held to a higher standard than a civilian, but I digress.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Well I'd personally love to see Trump get so many things that are coming to him for his many criminal activities, the gag order they're referencing was only applied narrowly to him speaking about court staff. Letitia James is not court staff, so he hasn't actually broken that gag order at least as written currently. But it's obvious stochastic terrorism per his usual mo. And any other person would have the book thrown at them for this by the judge, gag order or no gag order.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The hate-filled loser literally can't help himself! I can't wait until we never have to hear his name again...

[–] untrainedtribble 36 points 1 year ago

Hopefully soon. I want off this stupid fucking ride

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Unfortunately kids will be learning about this in US history for the rest of time, just like my kid had to learn about the election of 1824

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Lol. Imagine having kids in this hellscape. Imagine doing that to a child.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They’re teenagers now so things weren’t entirely fucked when we had them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're assuming there will be a US around by then. I think we'll be a fascist theocracy in less than 20 years, considering the state of our government. Probably much sooner.

Trump will either be celebrated or erased.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"D'nald Troomp was an emperor of the late Merkin Empire who attempted to retain power when his supporters, known as Maggies, stormed the temple where the priestly class was conducting a sacred ceremony to transfer the emperorhood to Jobe Iden."

[–] ericisshort 2 points 1 year ago

Well here’s hoping the rest of time isn’t too long.

[–] breadsmasher 2 points 1 year ago

I can accept that if his name is always brought up as “first convicted president, trump”

[–] metallic_substance 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not even his death will stop the discourse about him. He's done so much damage, we will be talking about him for generations.

Unfortunately it's just the beginning. Imagine when someone comes along with his same general agenda and tactics, but who has actual charisma and intelligence. It's only matter of time

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yup, he helped set the stage for the next Hitler.

[–] Transcendant 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a podcast I love called 'BudPod'. It's two well-educated British comedians, ostensibly about current events, but often devolving into poo and wee puns. I'm catching up with current events and atm they're discussing Boris Johnson, and how even with something as codified as the US constitution, all it's taken to make it a nonsense was one man who said ".... no." Similarly when Johnson was asked to resign or not to breach certain conventions (we don't have a constiution like the US), he just said "no".

We need more than a wink and a handshake when it comes to rules governing... well, governing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Until he dies due to acute underhamberdering.

[–] thisisawayoflife 3 points 1 year ago

I'll definitely be having a party to celebrate his death.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He must be livid all these powerful black women going after him. There's something poetic about that and my conspiracy is it's intentional. Fuck his mysogynistic and racist ass.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why the fuck are they treating this fucking scumbag with kid gloves

[–] Beekeeper_Dan 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Giving him lots of rope to hang himself with (and maybe implicate others)?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im sure that will make Ms. James thrilled to know while derranged Americans who are conditioned to not believe the truth head towards her house.

[–] SpaceNoodle 4 points 1 year ago

*derrranged

[–] badbytes 23 points 1 year ago

Compare the treatment of this asshole to any other citizen. F`ing NO Justice.

[–] Nightwingdragon 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As with every other violation of court orders, here is the list of consequences Donald Trump is expected to be subject to:

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Hey, remember in 2016 when these conservatives all were saying if they'd done "1/10th of what Hillary has done" they'd be in jail? Yeah, that was awesome.

[–] SinningStromgald 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wonder if he hates the fact she's black, a women or that she's already won more?

[–] Nightwingdragon 11 points 1 year ago

D. All of the above.

[–] xc2215x 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does but Trump has so much money.

[–] Rhoeri 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, he seems to have enough to keep this stupid show running.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

He doesn't, but his cult members are deluded enough to keep sending him their money. It's going to be interesting when there's none left to buy ads next year.

[–] agent_flounder 2 points 1 year ago

He apparently has enough power and influence somehow.

[–] NocturnalMorning 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe this is true, but why thedailybeast of all websites you could have posted?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NocturnalMorning 6 points 1 year ago

It's a pretty well known tabloid-esque website. Doesn't do a good job of reporting facts.