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This story is fucked. He was wrongfully convicted and then set free, gets $800k compensation in August, then pulled over (looks like they’re still coming up with a reason for pulling him over), threatened I’m sure with more jail (essentially provoked), tased then shot.
~~I think some fucking cops were after him and pissed that the dude got paid.~~
Video link from a comment below. Not a good look for the guy. Hard video to watch.
And the alleged 'good cops' are out here confused why no one respects them.
And the alleged ‘good cops’ are out here confused why no one respects them.
Until I start running across evidence that some police are angrier about the bad cops than they are about everyone else being angry about the bad cops, I refuse to believe they exist.
As someone who knew an actual good cop (grew up with him): They quit. That’s what he did. That’s all they can do. Because speaking up just ruins your career path. So they choose to go along or they change careers entirely.
We had a "good cop" DA in my city. The cops went on strike (though they didn't call it a strike, they just stopped doing their jobs), and started a propaganda campaign. When crime went up, people are stupid and blamed the DA. He got recalled and a police bootlicker got put in instead.
I'm still tickled that they have chose the idiom "a few bad apples" to describe the situation.
Like... Y'all aware the full idiom is "A few bad apples spoils the whole bunch."?
Good cops don't exist lmao
gets $800k compensation in August
Ok so this whole story is fucked up beyond belief but I just want to take a minute to say holy shit, because that dollar figure is pretty messed up in and of itself. They gave him $817k. That's $5.82/hr.
Minimum wage plus overtime for his time in prison placed monthly into a mutual fund with 7% return for 16 years would be a little over 2.5 million dollars.
Isn't this basically what happened with the Making a Murderer guy? He was due a huge settlement from being wrongfully convicted, so they planted a bunch of evidence to put him back in jail instead.
The police were definitely corrupt, but that documentary is intentionally misleading.
While some evidence may be in question, it's important to know that Teresa Halbach's vehicle was found on the property, along with charred pieces of ~~her~~ human bones in a burn pit.
It was the last place she went, the last place she was seen, and Avery lured here there under false pretenses (Teresa was not even supposed to be meeting with Avery).
None of this excuses any bad behaviors by the police, and that department certainly appears to be corrupt, but probably not a good example for this instance.
it’s important to know that Teresa Halbach’s vehicle was found on the property, along with charred pieces of her bones in a burn pit.
Police corruption is the problem. Her vehicle being on the edge of his fairly large property is a lot less damning if it weren't for Steven's blood being reported in the vehicle. There were witnesses who claim to have seen it moved there, even if Zellner cannot seem to decide who moved it.
And you say "her bones", but there's two problems with that. The bones have been confirmed to be human female, but they couldn't confirm or deny they were Halbach's. And there's a compelling reason to believe they were not burned in the burn barrel they were found.
There seem to be two real possibilities in his case. EITHER it's a fairly ridiculous frame-up job or he's guilty. That should be easy because of the question "why would anyone go to THOSE lengths to frame Steven Avery?" It's not easy because the open animosity and bad-faith of thep olice in this case is compelling.
I think he likely did it, but I genuinely think the case is so tainted, he should not have been convicted.
Public execution because of jealousy? And nothing will happen to the cops?
The police will do a full investigation of themselves and find no wrong doing. After that, the murderer will return from his paid vacation, which will allow his wife for some much needed time to recover.
Their Reason: Driving While Black
I always joke with my black girlfriend when she driving. I'll say "Be careful you don't want to get pulled over for a DWB". She laughs, I laugh, we both die a little inside.
That cop had better be charged and jailed for the rest of his life.
Mf'ers murdering with impunity over a traffic stop. 😡
Best I can do is a promotion to another department and a 6 month paid vacation.
I hate that you're right.
This was a hit.
Or just the usual treatment of a black man in georgia. We may never know which..
He was a poor black man in Georgia.
This was a statistically likely outcome.
Miller couldn't comment specifically on Cure's death but said he has represented dozens of people convicted of crimes who were later exonerated.
"Even when they're free, they always struggled with the concern, the fear that they'll be convicted and incarcerated again for something they didn't do," he said.
Totally understandable. I would imagine that's kind of traumatic.
(He was incarcerated in FL and killed in GA btw)
Assuming this wasn't execution...
Cops are taught Killilogy. I gather they're trained to protect their own life at all costs and that the public is out to kill them. Also deep seated racism^1 means they fear black men more. So they shoot at the drop of a hat (or for no reason at all).
We really need to disarm the goddamn cops if they can't be trained to de-escalate and control a situation without murdering civilians all the time.
I won't suspect an intent where a regular assholeness applies.
That said, they feel like they own the streets. Not only scared, but drunk on the lack of consequencies. That double-wrong story and recent accident when a cop raced after a suspect and slammed into an uninvolved car killing two shows how everything is wrong with their current position and thinking. Act now, think later - as their motto. It's not what these public servants are supposed to do, not ones with guns and tanks.
ACAB, because to be this one good cop, you need to actively and implicitly avoid using this given power to do fuck all. This system and their union enables them to act like shit by default. When you order something by delivery, you don't think about how a character of a delivery guy affects the state of a package, you complain if they give you a box of feces. Why cops aren't judged like that when they put feces whenever they like, and are free to do so, with lethal consequencies.
I think there should be a presumption that this is retaliatory
Considering this happened in a different state, I'm sure it's just the standard procedure of pulling over random black people and murdering them.
It’s worse that it’s not a conspiracy and it’s just the norm
Anytime you all want to band together and do something about those motherfuckers
Anytime
"I can only imagine what it's like to know your son is innocent and watch him be sentenced to life in prison, to be exonerated and ... then be told that once he's been freed, he's been shot dead," Miller said. "I can't imagine as a parent what that feels like."
Pretty tragic.
How do the police manage to murder someone in a traffic stop??? Doesn't that just entail the police telling someone their brake lights aren't working or ticketing them for being 5mph over the speed limit? Man I'm glad the police (and everybody else for that matter) don't have guns in my country because that would be happening here too. That poor man and his family.
Because they were looking for him and murdered him on purpose.
I just read the article and that is absolutely disgusting, even if the deputy's side of the story is all true why are they allowed kill someone for "resisting arrest??" Shouldn't they only use their gun if their life or the lives of members of the public are being threatened? I really hope that cop gets life in prison and has an extremely miserable rest of his life like the cop that murdered George Floyd, but something tells me that won't be happening here.
This was a hit. The cops don't like it when someone publicly and professionally embarrasses them.
The police are just an organized crime syndicate.
Does the police not have an independent body that reviews any time the police use their firearms? Surely it should be an automatic suspension, regardless of the reason. How does the US seem to have such a big police problem?
Police Unions. There's a few Behind the Bastards podcast episodes on how they started.
People give me shit for saying the South is a store, then stuff like this happens.