The proper response to transphobes is 1) "you shouldn't say x", and if they don't, 2) "shut up, idiot". There's some subset who would be respectful but don't know that certain things are disrespectful, that's what #1 is for. The rest are just idiots trying to fit in with their fascist group dynamic. They'll happily out themselves when you ask them to speak respectfully, so for them, it's #2.

If they try to have an argument, just respond to everything with "who cares? leave them alone."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's lots of polemic comments on the other post as well, but I did like this thing someone there said, about how the greatest impact can be made in real life, where the bigot in question, has a real person in front of him, making it much harder to dehumanise them.

Online, there probably isn't much to be done to change someone's mind.

When in person, if he is still an asshole, treat him like the asshole that he is.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is no point in debate when you can't agree on basic facts. A lot of transphobes are living in their own bubble, having completely rejected relevant experts in psychology, medicine, and many other fields.

[–] Sheeple 7 points 11 months ago

This. The ones who could be persuaded by reason, already have been persuaded by reason.

That means the ones left behind, are the worst.

[–] mina_tie 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually a transphobe. It's not natural for cars to turn into giant robots, you know how hazardous it is to be around transformers? With their size I wouldn't trust them to see normal folks like us and they might accidentally step on us leading to injuries and at worst death. Transformers are abomination and an insult to god. Banned transformers!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Funny and all, but replace transformers with normal cars, and your comment is actually the real life that we are actually living lol

Which I guess makes the metaphor even fucking better I guess

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i am a certified car girl but even i once in a while just stare at a car and go. why. what is this shit. what. who made this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

if we come to find out that the reason for the success of the first internal combustion vehicle was to roll coal on steam powered vehicles for the lulz I'm going to be so pissed

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

But why did you mark this post as NSFW

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Nice

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

full-screen gay porn

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They won't change their desire to be hateful people, they'll just ignore your logic that contradicts their world view. The only people that can change their opinion will be their friends, not the people they're convicted are their enemy.

Start working on the ones willing to listen.. it'll be a slow process to undo decades of political indoctrination but it's possible. It requires finesse and a gentle approach of friendship and kindness.

Then shove a stick up the ass of the political leaders driving this idiocy and cook them alive above a fire on a spitroast with an apple in their mouth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Anyone who is on the fence about is the earth is flat is definitely not worth your time to convince its round because their critical thinking skills are retarded.

The same logic goes for people who are on the fence thinking universal human rights for all minorities is something bad.

Stop wasting your time. You kill their toxic culture from its roots by agressively protesting, voting and deterring religion from interfering with politics, as well as promoting ownership and training of firearms for minority groups that are vulnerable to sexist/racist/genderist law enforcement in order to deter them from forcing you into a corner with threats of violence, or it will grow back like a rotting putrid festering fungal slime.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your post has 14 upvotes and 3 comments, you must've hit a big nerve

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Not gonna lie fam, I was looking for a way to link the source post, that was less creatively dead than "Source post: √link". But I think what I said is a hella good point in a post with enough upvotes, that I was going back to it via "Top of last week", because it is that highly upvoted.

[–] thantik -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are we talking about like, actual transphobes, or the "You're heterosexual and I'm a trans-woman and you won't sleep with/date me because I have a dick" transphobes? Because I've heard a lot of people be called transphobe for very...non-transphobe transgressions.

[–] TotallynotJessica 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've met zero trans people who would actually say that someone is transphobic for not dating trans people. No one is obliged to date anyone. Find a better example of non transphobic transgressions that are commonly called out by trans people and their allies.

[–] Uncle_Iroh 2 points 11 months ago

I keep hearing your argument but then I also keep seeing the other thing to much to be a fluke

[–] thantik 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Honestly, two of my trans friends have run across this themselves, but...that's in that particular social circle and not something they believe themselves. Echo chambers exist everywhere. Don't discount it just because you don't have anecdotal experience with it. I've seen plenty of it myself, but on places like Twitter and it's difficult to tell if it was satire or a legit view due to Poe's law.

Additionally, stop jumping to the conclusion that I'm making the argument in bad faith, because I'm not here to troll.