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He gets so close-

Violent crime has risen over precisely the period we have shuttered these psychiatric institutions. And you know what? The number one psychiatric institution today is jail. It’s prison. And they don’t do a very good job. And now you then get the calls to clear the jails or to have commuting of sentences or shortening of sentences. People leave those jails in a worse psychiatric condition, often, than when they even entered.

Yes! Yes!

We can do this again learning from past mistakes without those abuses. I don’t think I want to be pumping psychiatric institutions with pharmaceuticals into people.

Seems reasonable.

Faith-based approaches – there are better ways to do this.

Oh for fuck's sake.

And, of course, the ironic thing is that Ramaswamy is a pharma bro.

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[–] newthrowaway20 128 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Ramasmarmy saying whatever he thinks the Republican base wants to hear. So weird seeing him bet all in on a base that despises him.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He hasn't figured out that he will never win because he isn't white

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He probably considers himself white since he isn’t a black man meanwhile the republicans will never see him as anything but non-white. It’s similar thought processes to the South American neo nazis.

[–] FlyingSquid 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We had a Sri Lankan family friend who got incensed when anyone suggested he wasn't white. It was odd.

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[–] FlexibleToast 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's working so far for him. He's the rising star in the party. I'm sure there is a portion of the republican electorate that would like to vote for a brown person so they can use it as "evidence" that they aren't racist. Just like when they claimed racism was over when Obama got elected.

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[–] carl_dungeon 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s fucking dumb, people kill each other over religion every single day in staggering numbers. Maybe they can institute a program that has speakers from the IRA and the Taliban come in to talk about strong faith.

I cant believe grown adults believe in fairy tales, it’s absolute insanity.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At the end of Peter Pan, the Lost Boys along with Wendy and the other kids are tied to a mast while Captain Hook monologues at them. Peter has pushed Tinkerbell away, and she's fading out of existence. It seems all hope is lost.

But then Peter gets an idea and begins to chant. "I do believe in fairies, I do, I do." Soon, they're all chanting it together. "I DO believe in fairies! I DO I DO!"

And Tinkerbell pops back into existence to save the day. This is what faith is. The idea that if you believe in something hard enough it will pop into existence.

Of course, it's a fantasy story for children. I can't believe grown adults think it's true, either. It's absolute insanity, agreed. But that's where Republicans have to meet their constituents, who apparently live in Never Never Land.

[–] LEDZeppelin 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This guy is an even bigger shill than Turd Cruz. He made his money in pharma, his wife is a physician. And yet here he is shilling for FaiTH BaSeD CuRE.

Fuck off Vivek

[–] TheBat 7 points 1 year ago

Ironically, his name means conscience.

He's got none.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck George W Bush forever for popularizing "faith based" as a euphemism for people forcing their religion on others.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Religion is a mental illness.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Religion is about control and people exploiting this are 100% sane and know exactly what they're doing. That's the scary part.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Religion is about control

Turns out that if you can convince people that unless they behave in a certain way and follow a specific set of rules, they'll be dropped into a burning lake of fire when they die, they are pretty easy to manipulate.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just what we need, another fake ass politician, billionaire, douche bag lying to Christians.

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[–] keropoktasen 31 points 1 year ago (10 children)

So you treat mental illness with another form of mental illness?

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere 28 points 1 year ago

Belief in fake gods has never been the solution.

[–] Illuminostro 24 points 1 year ago

I'm so sick of these narcissistic cunts who will say and do virtually anything for attention and graft.

[–] Sanctus 22 points 1 year ago

YOU started a pharmaceutical company. Shut the fuck up. Your face is as big as Charlie's. Seriously, there must be some sort of correlation between right-wing vitriol and small faces because holy fuck.

[–] jerome 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol. Nobody trusts a right winger.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lmao I read that as right whinger at first

Still apt

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

So now these dipshits are unironically and very seriously borrowing from the Scientology playbook…? And here I thought religion in America couldn’t get any worse.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Only someone who is (probably) comfortably insulated from the reality that real people face in crises could say something so inane

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[–] assassin_aragorn 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bruh isn't his wife a doctor lmao

[–] Moneo 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure there are plenty of doctors with little to no respect/understanding of mental health.

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[–] CoggyMcFee 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s kind of like the joke “if alternative medicine worked, it would just be called medicine”.

A faith-based approach could also be called a hypothesis-based approach: the only thing that distinguishes it from a scientific approach is that it is a hypothesis that either hasn’t been tested or has failed the scientific method.

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[–] xc2215x 15 points 1 year ago

Vivek is wrong. Mental health should be taken seriously.

[–] tdawg 14 points 1 year ago

What a fucking idiot

[–] Kbobabob 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So his big plan is to just tell everyone, "Y'all need Jesus!"?

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently. Except he's a Hindu, so who knows?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

He's a pick-me. It's still Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It always amuses me when people try to recommend faith or faith based healing to cure their medical or mental health problems.

How is faith based healing any different from using the placebo effect on someone by giving them a sugar pill and telling them it'll help cure their illness? Only difference I can see is you are replacing the pill with God, another placebo.

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[–] Pollo_Jack 9 points 1 year ago

Sick that they would blatantly lie to try and increase conversions.

[–] Daft_ish 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I want to just say. Get fucked. Thank you, that is all.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

So we can safely infer he's not appropriately medicated? That explains a lot.

[–] captainlezbian 7 points 1 year ago

Sir you have a minority religion in this country. Do you think religion is irrelevant to this or are you hoping a bunch of Americans get shipped off to Vishnu camp when we get depressed?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Isn't he s pharma guy?

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