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Fucking hell. My wife and I wanted to plan our next hiking trip and go to Banff, then started reading about the grizzly threat. It seemed real, and there are so many beautiful places to go, so we dropped it.
Then, about a week ago, a guy in the gym at work is telling me about his trip to Banff where they took their kids along too. I started thinking maybe we should go for it. Now I read this awful news. Suddenly it once more seems like a bad idea.
Article says responders killed the bear, so technically it should be safer now...
Bear attacks are incredibly rare. Bears are usually docile creatures and don't want anything to do with humans.
Is that true of grizzlies? Seems to me they're only docile if they're full.
Yes.
This is making headline news because of how rare it is. Something to think about.
Interesting editorial choice to stick a photo of a sick sunrise in the middle of an article about a bear mauling.
"only 14% of grizzly bear attacks are fatal" seems like this just downplays the danger. If a product on the shelves had "only 14%" chance of causing cancer people would be livid.
Considering bears are 8ft long 900lbs killing machines an 86% survival rate is actually pretty fucking good.
Also if you're dumb enough to downplay the danger involving grizzly bears for any reason you're not going to live long anyway
Pretty sure that is another way of saying 86% of people can successfully play dead.
Remember folks: If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lie down. If it's white, goodnight.
Except some black bears are brown, so fight back if it's a brown black bear and lie lie down if it's a brown not-black bear (grizzly)
Ok, but how likely is a grizzly attack?
According to the US Natl Park Service it is 1 in 2.1 million. Dying from a bee sting is more likely.
What an odd correlation: bear attacks and products on shelves.
Are you implying that people might want to purchase bear attacks? Like a carnival ride?
And there are a good number of products that do have a good chance of causing cancer...so...what was your point?
“Sharks don’t actually try to kill humans, they just get curious and take exploratory bites”
Obviously that’s not a direct quote, but I people say things like it in defense of sharks frequently.
Well also if your spine is cracked but your alive, its not fatal.
If my spine is cracked I'm probably not making it out of the back country to get the medical care I need in order to not die.
I'd think in general, "just a broken back" would not be an immediate death sentence (even if it's results in you being paralyzed and unable to effectively save yourself). However I also don't see it being likely that's all you'd suffer from a grizzly attack. If they've broken your back, you probably have one or two other injuries.
See, stuff like this is why I stay inside. The bears can have the outdoors.
The bears can share the outdoors with people. This story is light on details but bear spray is considered the best defense against bear.
I've camped many times in bear country and slept in a tent. I kept bear spray with me at all times and fortunately had no problems...knock on wood. Most of the time it is OK but you have to be intelligent about it. Don't leave food out, carry bear spray, stay away from bear as much as possible, etc.
Also, there are plenty of great outdoor places you can go that don't have bear. Not saying they're risk free, almost nowhere is risk free. But there are "safer" parks, etc. (not "safe", just "safer").
I would never want to be only stuck inside. There's too much amazing to see outside.
Bear balls! That's what my wife and I use (along with bear spray and a 10mm). Little jingly balls you hook into your backpack. Now just walking makes a continuous noise.
Do bears not like bells? Wouldn't it draw them to you (like a dinner bell)?
Most wild animals don't want random interactions with strange noises. They will avoid as much as possible. Grizzlies and black bears don't usually "hunt". I'm unsure how effective it would be with polar bears or if it would draw them in. But your prep for going to an area with polar bears should be not going to the area with polar bears.
What's the difference between black and brown bear poop?
spoiler
One has fruit stones in it, the other one contains bear bells.
Edit: it makes sense to make oneself heard, the worst thing that can happen is quietly walking around a corner and there's a bear with two cubs close by.
Bear bells are a bit annoying and clapping or just talking to each other also works. Humans are not considered bait for bears and they will usually try to avoid you.
There are good books about avoiding bear attacks when in the backcountry.
Yep. I call them bear bells but I have some of those too.
There's a joke about them: https://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/92q4/bearbells.html
Do you spray it directly at the bear? Or is it a kind of repellent that you spray on yourself/your tent? ETA: Thanks for your answers!
Never. Ever. Spray bear spray around your camp. There's been plenty of incidents where that's what drew them in and got people hurt/killed. It's like cooking around your tent, they have to investigate the smells.
Really? Got a link for info about that?
I wouldn't think you'd want to spray pepper spray anytime you're not using it for defense. It usually blows around and there's a good chance you'll get some on yourself.
I would only spray it if I had to.
Great questions.
It is a pepper spray like "mace" that you spray at the bear. More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_spray
ETA: This link (from ikidd below) has a great video on how to use bear spray: https://parks.canada.ca/pn-np/mtn/ours-bears/securite-safety/gaz-spray
It's mace for bears. Usually much stronger than regular "mace". Also the canister is designed to spray a longer distance (like 20 to 40 ft). Google some videos to see it in action.
a shotgun is probably the only thing that would've saved them. or, just choosing not to hike in bear country at this time of year. This is when the more desperate bears will eat anything that moves. They aren't picky, and playing dead will not save you if a bear is extremely hungry, as they are in drought conditions. just a tragic reminder that bears can and will kill, and eat you under certain circumstances.