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It's not healthy, but it's cheap: a hamburger at McDonald's — €1.40, if I buy fries with it, €3.50.
3.50€ for a meal isn't cheap and nothing a poor person can afford on a regular basis. I can cook a great meal for under 2€ that doesn't consist of trash. What a detached asshole.
McDonald's is not cheap food, it's fast food. I don't expect this cunt to know the difference.
Yeah I don't know about Austria but here McDonald's ain't that cheap.
Same in all Europe. Not cheap for the quality. Cooking at home the same burger is cheaper with better ingredients
Same here in Lithuania. McDonalds is way too expensive for people on a tight budget and what you get for the price is disappointing too. It's cheaper and more delicious to make some burgers at home (which aren't so dry that you must wash down every bite with a sip of Coke) or just to get a street kebab (which is slightly more expensive but actually fills you for the entire day and is full of meat and veggies).
The 1,40 burgers are barely enough to satiate a child, even with fries.
A menu that can fill an adult, that's 13-14€ easily. And that's still just one meal.
The quality 3 meals a day I consume and make at home average 5€ per portion. resulting in 450€ food budget per person per month, I generally go for white label products if the quality is good enough.
That's 900€ a month for 2 people for food alone (this was 300ish before COVID).
850-1000€ for entry level 1 bedroom rent here, brings us to 1750-1900€ a month for a roof and food, another 75-100 for electricity (and then you have to be very usage conscious) brings us to 1825-2000€ a month, add required insurance (fire/health/accidents) for another 50-100€ brings us to 1875-2100€ a month.
Now, a phone and internet sub are pretty much a requirement these days, so say the cost of a cheap phone, internet and gsm abbo combine to be another 50€ a month per person.
So we're at 1975-2200€ a month to cover the very basic living expenses for a 2 person household.
You'd need to have one person with a decent wage or two people working minimum wage to barely get by.
Any surprise or extra cost and you're in the red.
Eating McDonnalds to cover breakfast, lunch and dinner every day, you'd need over 2000€ for food alone.
The quality 3 meals a day I consume and make at home average 5€ per portion
That’s really very high, are you guessing or did you actually work it out for an average day?
Tbh eating quality food is simply expensive. It's a thing where i wanna say you could easily save 10€ a day but it'd definitely be less healthy and eating unhealthily is ideally something people shouldn't be forced to do because they're poor.
Personally I eat out for lunch whenever I'm in the office (3-4 times a week) for 10€ and I spend less than 15€ on food a day. My regular meals at home are like... noodles with store bought pesto where ~4€ feed me an entire day, or frozen pizza which varies from 1-3.5€ per pizza. Though with some effort i could easily make my own pizzas for a similar (or even less if i make my own dough) price and have them be not unhealthy.
I also find 100€ for electricity to be pretty high (certainly not "very usage conscious") given that I consume around 80kwh a month, and 2 people shouldn't just double that since around a quarter is probably my fridge.
Tbh eating quality food is simply expensive.
I don’t really agree with that, if you mean in terms of money. Eating healthily can be very cheap, but can consume a lot of time and effort.
Take wholemeal rice with red kidney beans, for example - that’s a very healthy, filling meal and it’s also incredibly cheap.
Honestly, in my experience, the unhealthiest food also tends to be the worst value.
I’ll ask again because it’s important and you kinda brushed past it: have you actually properly checked - e.g. calculated price per 400 kcal, or are you just guessing based on your grocery budget?
That's not even enough to satiate you. For that you need to buy a menu which is about 10€ here in Germany. That's not cheap at all.
If I could afford almost 4 quid per meal I'd be laughing! Think of all the nice food I could eat!
We grow all of our vegetables for most of the year. Potatoes, carrots, leeks, onions, tomatoes, cucumbers, lettuce, beetroot, lots of berries for jams, etc etc. I don't know how we'd manage without that.
We live in the outskirts of a major city in England, not a stereotypically poor blackwater somewhere. This is how bad things are these days.
What can a banana cost?
As of July 2023, the price of a Big Mac (just the sandwich) in the US is $5.58 (€5.27). https://www.statista.com/statistics/274326/big-mac-in@dex-global-prices-for-a-big-mac/
According to Google that's about $5 Canadian. The avegage burger combo at McDonald's in my area is about $12. $15 if you upsize.
Not that eating healthier is much cheaper.
Exactly. Not only is it not cheap on a regular basis, but it isn't even that much food from my experience at the cheaper end of McDonalds.
You'd be far better off cooking your own food if you have the time, but the problem is a lot of these people are so busy working their arses off to stay afloat that they don't have that time.
Those 1€ (1.40 in Austria apparently) burgers are barely enough to satiate a child, if combined with fries. They are nowhere near enough to feed an adult.
It's been very long that these are 1€ here in Germany. Mcd is expensive and in a normal restaurant you can get very good meals for 15€.
Shows how detached these politicians really are.
3,50€ is really cheap in my country. But our grocery and restaurants prices are among the worse ones
Nobody in our country voted for that tone deaf asshole either. He was just "stepped in" as an interim after our prior catastrophe of a chancellor stepped down (Sebastian Kurz - He also made it to international media for his corruption).
Before representing our country as chancellor, this piece of shit was minister of the interior. - while being in this position he was just as useless as now. Words cannot describe how much I loathe this guy.
I personally couldnt care less if he was leading the party at the last elections or not. Nehammer is prime ÖVP, his politics is a perfect example of what you get when you vote for this party.
Idiot. That's neither healthy nor sustainable. What's his vision for his country?
Bleeding it dry? There was a thread in Mastodon recently proving there's a massive supermarket cartel driving prices in Austria higher than in surrounding countries and the government took the side of the supermarkets.
Do you have a link to that? Would love to know more.
The vision of his party is to keep everything the same, they're conservatives
Except when it comes to businesses, or religion, usually.
ÖVP has been in government for decades. There is nothing they want to change in regards to these topics, because the status quo conforms to their ideas.
It's also nowhere near that cheap.
McD is hella expensive, especially if you have to live of of it.
A 8-10€ basic menu is good to fill in a single meal, but while having a ton of calories, doesn't satiate enough to count even as a full meal (which is on purpose so you order more). At my local prices, you're looking at 13-15€ minimum, to have a satiating meal out of McDonnalds.
"Communism is when no food"
Capitalism:
Did they go looking doe the most smug, I'm-an-asshole expression possible for that guy, or does he just look like that?
What on earth happened to all the small businesses in my "poor" rural village? Oh right, that pedestrian unfriendly stroad next to the freeway with the Walmart and all the fast food restaurants sucking up the village's life force happened.
Nothing new for Austria. Lived there for 30+ years, it's downhill and corruption all the way.
To be fair corruption and keeping people in cellars is about ¾ of our GDP.
Not cheap at all. And really bad for health, so doubly costly.
Jesus. Throw that bad nutrition at them. Go on.
Is McDonald's cheap anywhere other than the US? In the US, there's a bunch of promotions that drive costs way down...
Yeah, I always heard in my youth that McDonald's is the poor's restaurant (in the US at least). However it was never really the case e.g. in Hungary. It was always average priced at best. You can eat far better for far less in every moderate-sized town.
I never hear anything about Austria. And when I do it is this asshole?
I am gonna take a guess at the dude has never seen what fast food did to Americans. Because he's as stupid as his statement.