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Conference fails to approve procedural motion to take up defense spending bill as government shutdown looms

The House Republican speaker, Kevin McCarthy, was dealt his second humiliating defeat of the week on Thursday, when his conference again failed to approve a procedural motion as members continued to clash over government spending levels with just days left to avert a federal shutdown.

With no clear path forward in Republicans’ negotiations, the House concluded its work on Thursday without any stated plan to reconvene on Friday.

“Discussions related to [fiscal year 2024] appropriations are ongoing,” Congressman Tom Emmer, the House Republican whip, said in a statement. “Members are advised that ample notice will be given ahead of any potential votes tomorrow or this weekend.”

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[–] flossdaily 275 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

McCarthy: "hard-right Republicans want to burn the whole place down!"

Moderate Democrats: "so you'll work with us instead, to pass legislation that keeps the lights on, and addresses some of the problems we both agree exist?"

McCarthy: "No. Fuck you. Die in a fire."

[–] TechyDad 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. The path forward is clear. Work with moderate Democrats to craft a bipartisan spending bill that most Democrats and Republicans can agree upon. Well either side get everything it wants? No, but that's how compromise works.

Of course the Freedom Caucus will be angry, but let's face it - they're always angry. (Hulk Smash makes for a good movie, but not for good politics.) If McCarthy works with Democrats and the saner Republicans, though, the power of the Freedom Caucus will be blunted. They can file to remove McCarthy all they like, but part of the deal with the Democrats could be that they'll vote to keep McCarthy.

Instead, McCarthy will complain while hoping that the Freedom Caucus members suddenly become reasonable.

[–] Heisme 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In an insane world it’s the sane that seem insane. This is the most logical solution to all of McCarthy’s problems but it will seem so crazy to him that he won’t go for it. Battle seat Republicans are already talking about working with Democrats to solve this problem. All of this use to be a nonissue because surprise surprise people in a long far away time once voted over party lines to get shit done, just as you said.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

That was before the Republican Party adopted “owning the libs” as their only platform item.

If McCarthy does anything with any Dems, it doesn’t seem crazy to him, he just knows it’ll result in a primary battle where his opponents will roll out his record of working with the enemy (which they’ve convinced a large portion of their voters, are pedos and election thieves).

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[–] Beetschnapps 25 points 1 year ago

Pretty much.

Whine as he may. The effect is still the same.

Still all one big family even if some of them say the quiet parts out loud.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is completely beholden to the far right. The approval votes by the far right were what got him just about enough votes to get him into Speakership. If they turn on him, he'll be kicked out for sure.

[–] Frozengyro 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if he can get Democrat votes. He can work with them and gain their votes to keep his position.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If he does that he'll be removed as speaker.

[–] Blackbeard 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (14 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not if the Dems agree to vote to keep him

That seems a tall order given his long history of biting the Dem's hands every time they reach out. This is a problem of his party's own making and stems from not honoring their earlier agreements around the debt ceiling.

Besides, they can't agree to something he hasn't (and won't) ask for.

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[–] tankplanker 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Working with the Dems will make his next Primary difficult, he hasn't got that long before that comes around again. This is what he, and a lot of the more moderate republicans are really scared of, being cut off from the grift by their own party.

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[–] Zombiepirate 113 points 1 year ago

Really Kev?

Please go on about how impossible it is to work with incorrigible dipshits who don't care about functioning government.

That must be so hard to deal with! Their refusal to negotiate in good faith must be soooo infuriating, huh Kev? It must be so frustrating to try and get a deal done and then have legislative arsonists burn the whole fuggin' thing down.

Right Kevin?!

[–] gastationsushi 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cult of Reagan complaining how the cult of Trump won't work with others. The missing subtext being the cult of Reagan refusing to work with anyone not in a cult. A tale as old as 2016

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Man politics has gotten so silly and commercialized that it's closest analog to me is professional wrestling. All of American politics is basically rich people trying to sell the kayfabe that their audience wants.

Libs pretend they're the good guys (face), and that they are here to save all the poors from the villains. But because they're all old rich people, it just seems fake and boring.

Conservatives get to do all the fun and cartoonishly evil (heel) shit. And because they're all actually evil fucks, it all sells as more authentic

My theory is that because there's a lot of Republicans trying to out heel each other, and because their kayfabe is more closely aligned with their political reality, a lot of them have forgotten that it's all kayfabe, or have grown up with it for so long they don't even know about the kayfabe.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always have.

👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

[–] Ryantific_theory 30 points 1 year ago

Can't complain about how the government doesn't work, if the government works.

[–] captainlezbian 52 points 1 year ago

Well yeah they campaigned on it. Is he new here?

[–] assassin_aragorn 49 points 1 year ago

"I should know, I'm one of them!"

Republicans are learning what it's like to deal with Republicans, and surprise, they don't like it.

[–] NABDad 41 points 1 year ago

Tell me you just read the Republican Party Platform without saying you just read the Republican Party Platform.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You invited them into the house and let them shit in your bed. Now lie on it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

They also broke in and shit up the place on Jan 6. Such fine people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Sadly they also shat in all of our beds. We're all going to be harmed by their actions. Sure, the republican party is going to face some large political issues, but all of us are going to be hurt by them.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

This is what happens when you acquiesce to the Jan 6er's who literally wanted to burn the place down.

[–] CharlesDarwin 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, no kidding Kevin. That's your entire fucking party, though. Even the so-called "moderates" want extremely radical policies that are designed to ruin what this country is supposed to be about.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

McCarthy, you made your bed, and you made it out of anti-personnel mines. It’s time to lie down in it. You’ll get no sympathy from anyone. This was entirely predictable.

[–] cunning_bolt 22 points 1 year ago

No shit, he's just figuring that out, huh?

[–] lennybird 20 points 1 year ago

McCarthy, included. The piece of shit wouldn't even allow himself to be photographed with Zelenskyy and is playing straight into Putin's hand. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

That's it. I am headed to DC with a ripe avocado in one hand, a piece of toast in the other, and a knife between my teeth.

[–] teamevil 18 points 1 year ago

No shit, so ignore then like the crazy people screaming on the street corner you fucking idiot.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] elbarto777 18 points 1 year ago

Nihilist? Yeah right. Either the Toddler party, the Bought Party(tm) or both.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

They’re the contrarian party. They exist in a perpetual state of doing the opposite of Democrats and being angry about it.

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[–] ViewSonik 14 points 1 year ago

Republicans doing everything they can to disrupt the lives of everyday Americans.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

thanks for getting wise to the politics of the republican party since 2010 kev!

[–] LEDZeppelin 12 points 1 year ago

Come on Kevin. Time to fly to Mar-a-Lago and kiss the butt

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was later quoted as saying "The Day after Thanksgiving is, in my opinion, one of the busiest shopping days of the year"

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

The coup continues

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That’s been quite obvious for at least 7 years now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The House Republican speaker, Kevin McCarthy, was dealt his second humiliating defeat of the week on Thursday, when his conference again failed to approve a procedural motion as members continued to clash over government spending levels with just days left to avert a federal shutdown.

A proposal to take up House Republicans’ defense spending bill failed in a vote of 216 to 212, with five hard-right members joining Democrats in opposing the motion.

The defeat was interpreted as a dismal sign for House Republicans’ prospects of approving a separate stopgap spending bill before government funding runs out at the end of the month.

The Democratic House minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, chastised his Republican colleagues over their internal divisions, accusing them of jeopardizing Americans’ wellbeing for the sake of a political stunt.

“Republicans in Congress can and must defund all aspects of Crooked Joe Biden’s weaponized Government that refuses to close the Border, and treats half the Country as Enemies of the State.”

The former president, who faces 91 criminal charges over election subversion, retention of classified information and hush-money payments, as well as assorted civil lawsuits, added: “This is also the last chance to defund these political prosecutions against me and other patriots.”


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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they got that idea from you slightly less insane idiots.

[–] AshMan85 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah. He is 1 of them

[–] paddirn 7 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's your whole party right now, I'm not sure what the expectation was.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Professional dog layer complains of fleas.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That’s just what F Tier Boss Babes and their F Tier Daddys do señor McCarthy, get a clue dingbat.

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