this post was submitted on 15 Sep 2023
1239 points (99.4% liked)

World News

39208 readers
3261 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] reversebananimals 124 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Feirdro 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I know everyone uses this word now, but I’ll never think of anything except Nazis circa 2016.

[–] reversebananimals 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

:(

I'm sorry for triggering that association. A lot of internet culture has been co-opted by those jerks. I didn't mean it that way.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They took the pepe frogs for a while too, but I've been seeing them come back. Nature is healing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuckkkk thatttt, pepe is still alive and well on twitch, and racists are not tolerated (at least in any of the channels I frequent). They can pry that frog from my cold, dead hands.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Based.

But seriously the guy who drew that frog was just a cartoonist and he was appalled that it became a hate symbol. I hope he sees it redeemed.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] TwoGems 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm glad people are reclaiming him finally. He was never a racist symbol.

[–] reversebananimals 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah. I'm old and have been on the internet since well before the creation of both Pepe and based. That's why I still use this term. I think we should try to reclaim these things - if we let them change our behavior, we lose.

[–] TwoGems 7 points 1 year ago

No one can take the pepe frogs from us

[–] Feirdro 8 points 1 year ago

Nah, I’m glad to know you didn’t know. I’m also glad I’m not alone.

…2016 will not be soon forgotten

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've tried to get my thinking to update, but I too just think Nazi when I see it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been an internet thing for long before 2016 (at least mid 00s in my memory), so I don't associate it with them.

[–] Speculater 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've slowly realized that many people on the internet use it casually, but like you, I always assumed they were alt-right (new main right) or libertarian at a minimum for a long time.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would LOVE to see more of this. Looking at you GATORADE, with your half-inch-deep plastic rim on the bottom and new hourglass bottle shape. 32oz sized bottles are 28oz now and MORE expensive. Fuck shrinkflation to death.

[–] 666dollarfootlong 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah for some reason drinks seem the most effected by shrinkflation, I hate going to the drinks aisles these days because everything seems so overpriced, even just regular tap/spring water

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

And the margins are so large on drinks already that they're just trying to scrape even more money from you

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (16 children)

If only smart glass is as popular as mobile phones. When Google introduced their smart glass, I dreamt of a day when a price history overlay is displayed when looking at a barcode, like how Keepa is doing for Amazon.

I also like German price display which has effective price, as in Eur per liter for drinks, making it dead simple to compare products. A smart glass will make it available everywhere.

Back to Carrefour, I really like that they are pushing pro consumer actions. However, we all know too well that they won't do the same when it's their products which are shrinking. Still better than no action though.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Afaik the base price display is requiered by EU law, atleast Czechia got them too on my last vacation.

[–] kameecoding 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it's so good too, you can cut through all the bullshit and simply check if per kg/liter It's cheaper or not.

even though for a lot of stuff it's simple math. 100g you just 10x, 250 you 4 x the price, 200g you 5x.

but there are lots of stuff that's packaged in weird amounts. 230g yogurt, 180g tofu.

you don't want to break out the calculator for shopping.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your comment made me realized that displaying the price per kg is not a standard everywhere.

This is the only price I'm looking at when doing groceries.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (15 replies)
[–] hark 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'd love to see this naming and shaming becoming a standard. I want to know if the product I'm buying has changed and while I try to do this myself, it can be tricky to keep track of all the products I buy and it's not like I'm scanning the exact weight every time and memorizing it, just that it's generally the same weight. These scumbag companies are always trying to sneak by all these changes over time, it's great to finally get a spotlight shining on it. If some sort of legislation can be made to force companies to note changes in products made in the last 6 months on the label, that would be great.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

I want to know if the product I’m buying has changed and while

Makes me think of a local git diff since your last purchase(s). See at a glance if it has changed, and what has changed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Exactly my thought for a long time. A law which mandates companies to...I don't know...put on a label, occupying at least 1/3 of the whole packaging with giant red/white font to say at least for 3-6 months: "The net weight/contenct was reduced by 15%."

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Man, the French really don't fuck around, do they?

Though the article says that Carrefour themselves do it for their house brands, so does that mean they'll also apply it to themselves? XD

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uhhh, no. They are gonna shame others, but not themselves. Capitalism my dude.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Tbf, their stated purpose is to bring attention to the price discrepancy on diminished products. I would assume they believe their pricing is fair in that respect.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, no... Carrefour conglomerate is peak capitalism, so I can only assume this action is a way to push people to their own brand stuff.

[–] FLX 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Carrefour are fucking thieves and their own low-price brands are also shrinkflationated carcinogenic crap.

They don't really have anything to teach.

[–] Aceticon 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

After seeing so, so many french brands and retailers remain in Russia after that country invaded Ukraine (the rest of it, as they occupied Crimea already), I just started assuming all large french companies are complete total shits and have been boycotting them since then.

Were I live there a lot of large french retailers, so this actually has made a significant difference in my purchasing habits.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I don't think any company gets "really big" playing by the rules.

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It appears to be in some mystic arcane language but I have been able to translate it:

This product has seen its liters

REDUCED

and the price charged by our supplier

INCREASE

WE COMMIT TO RENEGOTIATING THIS RATE

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

don't forget the price in retail include the destruction cost. they are winning on both side.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I know only one case where this shrinkflation thing was stopped - one beer company decided to sell 0.4l cans, because "that's what the customers want". It turned out pretty fast that wasn't what their customers wanted :)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The French supermarket chain Carrefour has put labels on its shelves this week warning shoppers of “shrinkflation”, the phenomenon where manufacturers reduce pack sizes rather than increase prices.

It has slapped price warnings on products from Lindt chocolates to Lipton iced tea to pressure top consumer goods suppliers Nestlé, PepsiCo and Unilever to tackle the issue in advance of much-anticipated contract talks.

Since Monday, Carrefour has been putting stickers on products that have shrunk in size but cost more even after raw materials prices have eased, to rally consumer support as retailers prepare to face the world’s biggest brands in negotiations due to start soon and end by 15 October.

“Obviously, the aim in stigmatising these products is to be able to tell manufacturers to rethink their pricing policy,” Stefen Bompais, the director of client communications at Carrefour, said in an interview.

The Carrefour chief executive, Alexandre Bompard, who also heads the retail industry lobby group FDC, has repeatedly said consumer goods companies are not cooperating in efforts to cut the price of thousands of staples despite a fall in the cost of raw materials.

In this he is backed by the French finance minister, Bruno Le Maire, who in June summoned 75 big retailers and consumer groups to his ministry urging them to cut prices.


The original article contains 494 words, the summary contains 216 words. Saved 56%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Good for them. I made tacos for the first time in ages a couple of days ago, and I could not believe the size of the shells now. I would have called them child-sized, they were so small. It's disgusting.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Geat idea! There's no reason this couldn't be done everywhere by citizens with access to sticker printing services... I've spotted a few products myself in the past year and wouldn't be against sticking some labels on them to warn my fellow shoppers :)

load more comments
view more: next ›