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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Looks interesting. Let’s paste in a NY Times article that I couldn’t read earlier.

12ft has been disabled for this site

…neat

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With the recent changes to chrome, you really should give Firefox a chance though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you're replying to the wrong person? I've been using firefox since it was called netscape navigator, aside from a stint in the 00's

Edit: Oh do you mean the link? I'm on firefox the "chrome" in the link is just the url, it takes you to the install for both firefox and chrome. I assume the plugin was probably made for chrome first then ported to firefox.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They definitely just missed the “on Firefox”, but you definitely made that clear hahaha

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought so ... but there's times my brain doesn't always parse what I read properly either lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for going easy on me. :p

Yes, that was a total brain fart on my part, I just looked at the url.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No worries, I've done it myself

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just the url, the extension is available for both chrome and firefox and they already said they are on firefox

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I just saw chrome in the url and overlooked the Firefox part in the actual sentence :D

[–] Dr_Chocolate 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used it on Firefox ans it didn't work

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What site did you try it on?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Archive.is/ before any link works like a charm.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They bent over for a lot of sites. Cowards (or money hungry fuckfaces.)

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This doesn't work nearly as well as it did in the past. I don't know the story behind 12ft, but they seem to be complying with any site which has requested it to not work on their articles.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bloomberg blocks the service entirely, as does NY Times. :/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

haven't used bloomberg in a minute but wasn't it as easy as blocking java script? (and that's something you should be doing anyway.)

hell you got a second to scroll the article before it locked out scrolling so you could just reload the page and scroll down to where you where reading if you where on say a work computer and couldn't install shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just tried both tricks on Bloomberg, neither works.

(I am also not a huge fan of NoScript. I know why people use it but I don't want to take all that brokenness. The thing that makes ad blockers mass-compatible is that they have auto-updating block lists. I do have an own list to kill some additional disrespectful behaviors from websites like chat bots though.)

[–] Aux 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can disable JS in DevTools, no need for extensions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On mobile, you can get NoScript but there are no dev tools. On desktop, keeping dev tools open is a little annoying too.

[–] Aux 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

F12 -> F5 -> F12 no need to keep anything

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not so in Firefox. F12, Settings, Disable JS, and then you need to keep dev tools open to stop the page from reloading (or maybe you can enter reader mode and then close dev tools).

Anywho. Kinda far from the point now that we're discussing how to disable JS in dev tools which doesn't fix my issue after I mentioned that I don't like NoScript, an extension which also doesn't fix my issue after we discussed how 12ftio yet again doesn't fix my issue.

[–] yokonzo 0 points 1 year ago

You probably shouldnt assume that your experience applies to others or even that they find the same experience manageable

[–] CluckN 9 points 1 year ago

That’s like when AdBlock Plus told advertisers they could be bribed to let their ads through.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Never worked well for me, tbh. I always went with archive.org which doesn't work anymore as well. The publishers have won the internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well there's always the good old Reader View button in Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some websites seem to hardly circumvent reader view, but to the point where it can be inconvenient. Reader Mode only works with the NY Times if I rapidly click on the "Toggle reader view" button whilst it's loading, otherwise it'll cut off. But it still does work brilliantly most of the time and gets the job done.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That site has never worked for me. I use and recommend bypass paywalls clean

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Just want to add the bypass paywalls clean filters is the same idea but as an Adblock filter list rather than a separate extension.

[–] Dr_Chocolate 3 points 1 year ago

Same. Never had it work even once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The one true king. Just used it on ny times and it works. Just paste the filter list into ublock origins custom filter list option and youre good to go.

[–] Theharpyeagle 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate paywalls as much as anyone, but I've been thinking lately... how can we expect to fund quality journalism without paying for any news? Is it viable to rely on donations alone?

[–] Aux 9 points 1 year ago

You don't. That's why journalism today is utterly bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I thought about it years ago. Came to the conclusion that they would have to be extremely popular. Good journalists have good pays, after all.

Edit: I think there should be some multi-national free/objective reporting fund to make it possible.

[–] Aux 2 points 1 year ago

Mmm, there is something like that in the UK. It's called a TV licence. The idea stopped working with the advent of the internet. Why pay into the funds when you can get everything you want for free?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I agree and still don't have a solution. I read a lot of news and I like to read different views on the same topic, like reading a very leftish and a very conservative article. But I just cant pay all of them. :/

My idea was to pay two different newspapers (one for daily news the other a monthly magazine) so that I pay at least some journalists and read the rest for free. And then change whom I am paying every year or two. For this I need antipaywall to still read the rest....

Now with some friends we have subscriptions to different newspapers and share them, but usually u have a fixed amount of devices you can connect to one subscription so more than 3 newspapers is difficult already.

I really liked this flattr idea but I think it died. It was something like you give an amount of money every month to your flattr account and then when you read articles and you liked them you press the flattr button.l at the end of the article. At the end of the month flatttr would distribute your money among all sites that you clicked the bottom with the amount corresponding to how many articles you liked... very good idea. But died(?) with paywalls.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use archive.is these days, it's not perfect either but you get the added bonus of archiving the page for future folks.

[–] TheGiantKorean 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does not seem to like my VPN, unfortunately. I end up solving infinite CAPTCHAs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Apparently that’s a transient problem for even people who use it all the time, normally without issues. I’ve never used it myself but read a conversation about it the other day.

I’m pleased as punch that (nearly) everyone on Lemmy seems to post non-paywalled links, talks about the sites, and exposes them to everyone else.

[–] TheGiantKorean 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed! I wonder if someone could code a bot to do it automatically 🤔

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's no longer a reliable solution. Most paywalls now just throw a javascript confirmation at it's IP that breaks the ability to display the article.

[–] DougHolland 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And worse, 12-Foot Ladder intentionally doesn't work on many newspaper sites. Maybe they got some cease-and-desist letters, but for bypassing paper paywalls it's often useless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere that they work together with some companies and disabled their service in those news sites. But whether this co-op has monetary gains for 12ft or is the result from cease and desist orders, that I don't know

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

12ft and google cache often ends up with HUGE images. I assume sites are using very large image sizes that they are then down-scaling in a way that these sites can't parse.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Over the years I’ve tried this site every now and the with varying results. Generally speaking, I seem to be interested in the types of articles where it doesn’t work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last few times I've tried, 12ft didn't work for me, but https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome does so far. (For firefox and chrome)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Theres also this one: https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-firefox-clean
Dont know the diference between them but its good to have options.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think it's the one without Google analytics. Apparently more active development as well, can't confirm that though just trust @eipi1_[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For sure, thanks for the link.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If I care that much I'll find a different source.

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