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Today I posted a picture of a stamp with an animal in it and they said the picture contained nudity and made me take it down, but I reported a photo of a guy with a fully visible swastika tattoo and they said that's fine.

I'd like to start a Lemmy community with photos of stuff that they refuse to remove called FacebookSaysItsFine.

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just delete your account, stop using it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but what other honest and trustworthy corporation do I give all this valuable personally-identifiable information to?

[–] afraid_of_zombies 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I promise if you give it to me it will be secure since I am such a failure of a person I will lose it.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I find it hard because of my Livejournal friends, it's the way we're still in touch.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By posting stamps with animals in it?

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[–] thecam 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exchange your email with your fb friends and toss your fb account in the trash.

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[–] bunny_funeral 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i hope it takes linkedin with it

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LinkedIn is the human centipede of social media.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I remember I made a Kurt Cobain reference as a joke, and Facebook said I was breaking the rules against suicide or whatever.

Yeah, the same Facebook that was totally fine with an actual violent video I reported

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 17 points 1 year ago

The governments should break up Facebook. It needs to be held accountable.

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[–] MargotRobbie 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The good people left Facebook a long time ago. I would even argue before the place was taken over by boomers.

I think ultimately, it was the share functionality that ruined Facebook, because it was once the place where you keep up with your friends, but then the genuineness of it is gone after you realize they only see their friends as a captive audience to get likes and get a boost for their Farmvilles.

It's a dehumanizing place, which is why it became a wasteland.

[–] MataVatnik 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I distinctly remember back in 2010 right before I deleted my Facebook, everytime I logged in I would get depressed and sad.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Do it, make the community. I'd subscribe. This post got lots of traction. There's an audience.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why so much anger? Just stop using it. Apathy is better than anger.

I can't even remember when I logged into fb last.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I searched for a community named "FacebookSaysItsFine" and haven't yet seen anything.

Be the change you want to see in the world!

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I just worry people will post things like CSAM on it, but I think it would be very good.

[–] dustyData 12 points 1 year ago

I would suggest the opposite. Perhaps a Facebook doesn't allow this, community. Too much risk of attracting trolls and monsters.

That said. The FBI says that Facebook, Instagram, Twitter et al. They all contain a not insignificant amount of CSAM at any given point in time. The fact just never gets reported by press because they're normalized platforms by the public. Only the fediverse gets that sort of negative attention in the press because it's the disruptive outsider platform. When by both proportion and volume, almost all other platforms have a worse issue with awful content that regularly flies under the radar because they are big corporations.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It would definitely require some very active moderation and clearly-defined community rules. But it sounds like a great idea for a Lemmy community, if you have the time.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think only baby boomers are using facebook now. None of my friends are on fb hence the conclusion.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Facebook market place has completely broken and laid waste to all of its competitors. Every woman with kids I know is using it to buy and sell and give away children stuff.

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[–] HipHoboHarold 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This was why I left. Last straw was me getting banned for a week because I called someone an asshole for openly calling for violence against trans people. I reported their comment as well.

Mine got me banned. Facebook said they were fine.

I sometimes feel like I should have a tinfoil hat on, but I'm honestly willing to bet that wite supremacy groups got members to get jobs at social media companies to purposefully let them get through the system.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I’d like to start a Lemmy community with photos of stuff that they refuse to remove called FacebookSaysItsFine.

I get why you feel this way, but this feels a little superfluous. Like, making that community will never, ever change how Facebook does business, we're not going to shame them into being better by cataloging the terrible shit they allow. In other words, all we're doing is choosing to make a forum filled with the horrible, hate-filled posts that Facebook says are okay. I'm honestly more comfortable just leaving them on Facebook and not posting the same vile garbage here to make fun of it, because I don't think it will change anything other than a history of hateful posts on Lemmy.

We can make fun of how much they suck without bringing their awfulness and putting it on display over here, especially when doing that isn't gonna change a damn thing. Facebook has the "fuck you" money to ignore it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, by definition such a community would contain a bunch of things we don’t want to see on Lemmy either. So probably better not to.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

A few years ago, someone my daughter knew from school was posting pictures of her cuts from self harm on Instagram. I reported it to instagram but they didn't do anything about it.

[–] Etterra 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem with unlimited free speech is that it lets the worst people be free to be even worse yet. There is no such thing as ethical absolutism of any kind; it's just extremism in a flashier suit, and extreme is by its very nature hostile because it can be used to justify literally anything. Especially by true believers.

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[–] Pat12 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i only keep it because some friends died a while ago and it's the only trace i have of them left

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

Ugh. I would love to stop using it but I need it for school. My college regularly posts information on Facebook groups instead of its own websites and I need Messenger for communication/group work in college.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I kind of like that idea, do we have any Twitter users here to do something like that too?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The mainly automated moderation on FB and Twit were infuriating when I used them, yes. I was suspended twice on Twit (pre-musk) for fairly innocuous comments. Meanwhile, when I reported literal death threats, I’d get back the message “we reviewed this and it didn’t violate our community standards”. At this point I deleted my Twat account and haven’t signed into FB in 4 years.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Delete your account.

Reach out to the people you only talk to through Facebook and give them your contact information.

It'll be awkward and you might lose some people, but every person who quits makes it easier for everyone else to quit. Quitting is better for your health and happiness.

[–] Reygle 8 points 1 year ago

Being an active Facebook user in 2023, after everything- and your prime complaint is that you couldn't share a photo on it. May the flying spaghetti monster have mercy on your worthless soul.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I had similar situation with facebook. In a discussion, I posted a single comment about election results with numbers, percentages and a link to official governmental website containing that very same data, with attached screenshot of it for lazy ones. Facebook informed me that the comment violates spam rules and will be removed. No edit possibility, no peace talks, just removed. At the same time there are profiles loaded with hate speech, bigotry, racism and disinformation for years, and no automod, no algorithm was triggered.

That moment I sad fuck your algorithms, fuck your data, fuck your website, I can live without it. Just pulled the plug and deleted the account. I don't need that hate-machine to keep in touch with my friends. And as long as people says 'but my friends are there', facebook will continue to roll hatred fueling algorithms and never change. No mockery, no subreddits or lemmy communities will change it, but every user less - may lead to a change, or better, a downfall.

Just delete the account.

edit: and try to watch the social dilemma documentary.

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[–] leotonius 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have been extremely addicted to Facebook for a very long time, even though I knew it was a cesspool. The main thing that had kept me there, was that I was running a photography business on the side, and Facebook was unfortunately a great way for clients to find me and reach out to me. I've started on a different adventure, and it was so incredibly freeing to blast my Facebook account away yesterday.

I do still miss seeing live updates for the people that I care most about, but Facebook can definitely get fucked, and definitely should die.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Years ago I noticed a picture my niece had liked that was a couple of her friends jumping on their bed in only underwear. The girls were probably 11 or 12 so I reported it as inappropriate. A few days later Facebook replied to my request that the pictures were not against the TOS. I couldn't fuckin believe that. I encouraged my niece to suggest that the pictures be removed before a pervert found them. That was what finally worked but I suspect those girls probably thought I was the pervert.

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