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[–] Savvy95 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It reminds me of that old joke of the 2 scientists studying a fly.

Scientist 1: Fly, fly! Scientist 2: When fly has two wings fly flies 2 feet.

Scientist 1: pulls off one wing and says Fly, Fly! Scientist 2: When fly has 1 wing, fly flies 1 foot

Scientist 1: pulls off the other wing and says, Fly, fly!. Nothing happens Scientist 1 Fly, Fly! Nothing happens Scientist 1 showing frustration> FLY! FLY! Scientist 2: When fly has no wings, fly becomes deaf.

Bad-dum!

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like this. First time hearing it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That's good, 'cause the fly can't.

[–] anewbeginning 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is a useful technology....for tyrants.

[–] Frozengyro 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Potential PTSD treatment. I think this is the plot to a movie or book though, where soldiers are taken advantage of.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was definitely a Black Mirror about it.

Sidenote: It's weird to me that more people don't talk about the inevitability of that one with the soldiers with cybernetic HUD implants that, shocking twist later, can make civilians look like monsters to be purged.

On the other hand, why bother when the Boston Dynamics murderbots are probably cheaper?

[–] loie 6 points 1 year ago

Universal Soldier?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

I agree. But I also wouldn't mind forgetting one or two things. However, I've also watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, so I know it ends with me having perpetual dementia-like fever dreams.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Whew, hopefully he'll forget he's supposed to track me till the end of time

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Sorry bucko, it was a decoy snail

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[–] illusoryMechanist 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scientists: No guys seriously what have we done I can't remember

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 20 points 1 year ago

Oh no, they fried the part of their brain that could tell the difference between snails and humans!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Snail

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Finally I can replay Outer Wilds.

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[–] solstice 42 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Since the comments all appear to be juvenile Reddit style jokes, here's TFA (the frickin article: https://futurism.com/scientists-selectively-erased-memories-in-snails-are-we-next#

Note, I'm not a scientist.

As I suspected it appears they tortured the snails somehow (my guess is electric shock) to create traumatic memories. This has been done with caterpillars I think to see if they retain memories after turning into butterflies and they do, despite basically turning into primordial goop in the cocoon. They do, and it's tested by seeing if they retain aversions to certain areas of their cages that are electrified.

Then something about enzymes created which associate memory with pain and being able to target them.

Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I'd like erased.

[–] aesthelete 20 points 1 year ago

Pretty cool, and I for one definitely have a few traumas I’d like erased.

It's kinda neat, but I for one do not want to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind become a documentary. I mean I like the movie and all...but.

[–] Wogi 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can kinda do that. There are therapies that target trauma and recontextualize them. Look up EMDR, it's really cool stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the scientists are more worried about why the snail's head is the size of a human rather than the memory loss...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's the long hidden aliens that were driving the latest non-human aircraft

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe the snail meme was a CIA guerilla training operation.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Have you ever entered a room and forgot why you came in?

How about your dreams at night? Or what you had for dinner last month?

I think that memory-deletion is much more common than we think. Like vast invisible whales floating through your living room.

Of course we'd never know it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Every time I walk into another room.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well the scientists must be zapping me a lot in that case.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For every memory that you noticed you forgot there are a thousand that you forgot without noticing. I'm guessing here.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

You ever read "there is no anti-memetics division" by qntm?

It's good science fiction . He explores the subject of memory, deleting memory, etc. They have drugs for erasing memory, drugs for making it so you can't forget, demons that eat memory, certain kinds of information that resist being remembered... It's fascinating stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Pfft this guy doesn't know how to see the invisible whales 🙄

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is the snail so large?!

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't remember, sorry.

[–] postmateDumbass 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly the reason they had to fund this project.

Cheaper than the lawsuit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The scientists first enlarged the snail, but when the snail was too large to make love to his snail wife or hug his snail children without crushing them, he decided to sue. That is until he suddenly got amnesia somehow.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

So they could use a normal sized eraser, duh.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no the real one escaped

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Probably a racing snail.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mollusk

[–] smellythief 7 points 1 year ago

Small ~~know~~ knew too much.

[–] Zehzin 7 points 1 year ago

I can give snails brain (ganglia?) damage too, you're not that special, scientists.

[–] Lammy 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but it's 5 years old.

Forbes article

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My question is, how do they know what a snail is thinking or remembers? Last I knew snails didn’t talk.

[–] UnendingQuest 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably something like the snail learned to find food in a certain place, then they were able to make it forget such that it would search randomly instead of going to the place it had learned.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, I can see it now.

“Im going to sit here for 8-12 hours and watch where this snail goes today.”

Sorry couldn’t resist.

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[–] solstice 4 points 1 year ago

I read a study once about caterpillars getting shocked in their cages to teach them which areas are electrified. They retained this memory aversion after turning into butterflies. Probably something similar, basic behavioral observations to stimuli.

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