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Brösche, 26, never made it to LA. She’s been in federal immigration custody since Jan. 25 — the day they tried to cross into the United States through the San Ysidro Port of Entry.

Brösche had her German passport, confirmation of her visa waiver to enter the country, along with a copy of her return ticket back to Berlin, Lofving said. A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agent pulled Brösche aside for a secondary inspection.

She didn’t know it then, but it would be 25 days before Lofving would see her friend again. Brösche would spend that time in federal detention, where she remains, waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin.

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[–] ansiz 2 points 54 minutes ago

I'd wager this is all because of some innocent comment she made about her tattoos and the agent jumped on it. Just like a cop, the agent was probably being friendly to get her to talk and got her to admit she did some tattoo work the last time she was there. Remember everyone only answer direct and relevant questions, anything else they ask is just trying to find a reason to screw you over!

Once the German embassy is getting involved though, she should have been released immediately but it's clear this administration likes the power trip too!

Even the garbage about not letting her go back to Mexico is crazy, I know they do that all the time without proof of residency. This agent definitely had it out for her!

Even a few years ago, maybe 2017, I was at JFK airport and lady somehow was getting off a plane from London and couldn't find her passport, the agents got worked up but released her after some kind of back and forth where she had to appear with her passport in a couple of days (or something). Somehow the passport was in her luggage that had been checked in, IDK.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If the germans weren't pussies they would kick the yank out of rammstein real quick.

But hey, they are quite tempted by the far right themselves.

[–] froh42 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yes, we're tempted by the right, too. But ousting them now would do no good.

But Ramstein (only one m, unlike the band) - keep the USians there for a time, let's keep it as is for a time until it's time to make some kind of deal.

They might need it one day, so we keep it as a collateral.

All long term international agreements and security guarantees died on the weekend so we need tangible things to force our former allies - now those we have deals with - to ensure they behave.

The correct thing to do would be our foreign office to issue an official travel warning for the US. (Which would have some impact on tourism to the US)

Let's keep the big things for later, we WILL need them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't know why people are surprised. US customs has always been rude and shitty like this. I'm Indian by heritage (US citizen), and I still get looks going through customs at LAX and shitty bag checks.

It also certainly doesn't help that she was going through San Ysidro. Worst port of entry imo. Customs has always been bad and this stupid administration has given them more fuel to be worse.

Tho I'd argue that this is the situation in customs all over the world lmao. I was in a similar situation in France. Not even tourism. Went out to eat as I had a long layover and had issues when I came back.

[–] vxx 1 points 2 hours ago

You're lucky that they let you back out after you entered france without a Visa, even if it's just for a snack.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The very idea they didn't just turn her around proves how evil these fucks can be.

[–] rottingleaf 0 points 4 hours ago

Maybe they just forgot

[–] slaacaa 105 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Lofving said the episode is particularly absurd because Brösche’s original return flight to Berlin was on Feb. 15 — nearly two weeks ago.

“Why are American taxpayers spending thousands of dollars detaining tourists who are perfectly willing to leave,” she said.

The average cost of detaining a noncitizen adult is $164 per day, according to an ICE memo. Based on that average, a month of detention costs taxpayers $4,900.

Fucking clownshow of an administration

[–] zergtoshi 15 points 6 hours ago

If they weren't detained and roaming around through the country instead, they'd even spend money.
Make it make sense.

[–] rottingleaf 3 points 4 hours ago

It's not a clownshow of course, things usually make sense when costing this much money, and of course they don't stop making sense when costing billions.

Making sense is not the same as helping goodwilling humanity.

[–] jpreston2005 91 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

CBP agents at the border accused Brösche of planning to violate the terms of the visa waiver program by intending to work as a tattoo artist during her trip to LA

Oh wow, a visiting artist might come do some art, fucking arrest her!

Jesus fucking christ the sociopathic cowards running these ABC agencies are dumber than shit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Work doesn't stop being work because it's artistic.

If you violate your visa you can get deported, that's pretty normal globally and does involve an arrest. It's only exceptional because of the inhumane conditions of detention facilities in the US and because she was arrested immediately instead of being denied entry or educated on the restrictions of the visa. If she presumably told CBP she was intending to violate the visa waiver she probably thought it was acceptable for some reason.

"Why yes customs agent, I am intending to perform work in exchange for money while in the US on a tourism entry permit" -Privileged and naive white tourist used to the Schengen area about to dive face first into a poisoned spike pit that was meant to catch brown people

The problem is the spike pit, not really the person diving into it making headlines because they happen to be a white woman.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, but she didn’t violate it yet. We don’t arrest and detain people for what they might do(excluding threats to national security). Well at least on paper.

I agree that the tattoo work is still work, and I’m not implying you think she was rightfully detained. But if you are, she wasn’t. If you’re not, then this comment is to add context.

[–] SpaceNoodle 217 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

And this is just a story that made the news out of sheer luck. Imagine how many more innocent people are locked up or worse.

[–] captainlezbian 32 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Not sheer luck, but because she's german. Germans haven't been mass migrating to America since the 60s at the latest and her detention is a change from the norm of us mostly only doing this to Latin Americans, Caribbean folks, Middle Easterners, and Africans

[–] rottingleaf 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So Eastern Europe is not in the list? Just askin

[–] captainlezbian 1 points 2 hours ago

I have no idea. We don't get enough of you for it to be a thing we really talk about

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[–] P1nkman 35 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In Norwegian, live in Denmark and work for a Danish company, who also operates in the US. If my manager were to say, it ask, if I can go to the US office for work, I'll say no unless I get a really fucking good life insurance while I'm there. I don't want to go to the US for whatever reason.

[–] NewDay 4 points 4 hours ago

Nordic countries > EU countries + Switzerland > Oceania > rest. Unfortunately, I have to admit it as a German.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 19 hours ago

Imagine how many American citizens are sitting in these camps and will be deported to some other country as Trump tries to eliminate due process and rob them of their day in court.

[–] HowRu68 25 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

What a horrible situation for the artists and all those detainees..Seems random people have been detained and held way too long, without legal reasons.

[–] jaybone 99 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Add tourism to another industry Trump is helping out.

And she remains waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin, when she already had her own return ticket? Which she would have used already by now and been gone??? God these people are so fucking stupid.

[–] JacksonLamb 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I have to admit: I just crossed the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone Park off my bucket list whilst reading this story.

The police firearm homicides always felt a bit iffy but this clinches it. Definitely not going to try to visit that country. It's not a risk I'm willing to run.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

I just commented this to some other person here. I'll paste my answer; I hope that's okay.

China, India, Peru, and Mexico, to name a few, have deeper and larger canyons. A similar one to the Grand Canyon is the Copper Canyon. It is located in Chihuahua, Mexico. It is four times larger and almost twice as deep as the Grand Canyon. It has many tourists' activities, and you can even add other destinations to your journey if you visit it by train. It is a nice option while we all wait for the end of the almost-fascist/probably-fascist situation in the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 16 hours ago

... another industry Trump is helping stamp out.

[–] Kyrgizion 77 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

You'd have to be downright r-worded today to want to visit USA. Not this woman, I mean every one who comes after her.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

I would go. But i'm not crossing the border legally lmao no fucking way.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah. I have friends who are wanting to come to the US. "It couldn't happen to me, I'm white" they say. "I'm from Europe, I'll be safe" they say.

No.

It'll happen to them, and I'm scared because they refuse to listen.

[–] SpaceNoodle 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Send them a link to this story.

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[–] assembly 63 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

As an American, I would recommend that folk reconsider travel to the US during the current administration. There are no longer checks and balances and it’s a very dangerous place at the moment. They’re removing all accountability for the border patrol and any immigration adjacent services so they can now do whatever they want. You’re at the complete mercy of the immigration service and they have full latitude to do whatever they want (legal or illegal) as the threat of repercussions have been removed. Be safe out there.

[–] rottingleaf 2 points 4 hours ago

While this is true, people travel to Dubai and to Thailand and to Egypt (maybe not much recently) and, well, to Turkey.

Accountability and checks and balances in countries listed are such that the former two are technically absolute monarchies, so in that regard worse in skeleton than England after Magna Carta.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

And these police that have you at their mercy are pm selected for being dumb, and anyone who wants the job just wants the power to harm people. Also they get like two days of training before being given a badge and a gun. When they abuse their power, even when they murder people, they have next to zero accountability.

Don't come here. Most of Central America is fantastically beautiful, welcoming, and safe. From what I understand Canada is as well (I'm not allowed in the country) but it's cold there much of the year.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 hours ago

Thanks. The US is the last place I wanted to go anyway, I don't want to support genociders.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

My university sent out travel warning announcements about the US to all students and staff through email and matrix last week. Basically warning everyone, especially queer people, that you should expect complications or unjust treatment when traveling to the US. Kinda crazy that some german university takes this more serious than the US democrats take the end of their democracy.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

She didn't even do anything. They just took her aside because they thought she might use her time to work in the US. What the fuck is wrong with those people?

[–] Diplomjodler3 29 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Give people power without accountability and this is what happens. Every single time. That's what the rule of law is about and that's why fascists hate it so much.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I would not even fly to the USA right now, if I would get paid to do so. This country turned from one of the most attractive targets into a total shithole within weeks.

[–] Tattorack 3 points 3 hours ago

The US stopped being an attractive target to me the moment they fucked over Iraq.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago

to be fair, it was not an attractive target before either for a long tim, independently of the president. CBP and ICE were bad people for a very long time now, and that's not even the only problem

[–] PetteriPano 36 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I've visited the US a couple of times for work.

I've been very careful with my wording when they've asked if I'm there to work.

Yes, I'm there for work. I'm employed in the EU, and I'm just there representing my employer at a fair or technical meeting. I'll be gone in a few days.

My colleague didn't have the same way with his words, but back then they'd just put you on the next plane back.

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[–] Tezzerets_Tea_Time 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Sue Sue Sue. Take them all down and take them over the coals for every cent you can get.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't want to be mean, but I think it's a bit naive that a German citizen would be able to sue the US gov with the current checks and balances

[–] SpaceNoodle 21 points 17 hours ago

What checks and balances?

[–] x00z 11 points 14 hours ago

Sueing everything and everybody is such an American thing to do.

She'll be glad to get the fuck out of that shithole and never look back.

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