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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

a $200B subsidy

That's not how trade works. One side has something the other side wants. They agree to make an exchange.

Both sides win.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

That's how Trump thinks, though. Every transaction is zero sum to him.

I'm also convinced saw the "deficit" part of "trade deficit" and either automatically assumed it was bad thing or knew he could convince low-information voters that it was.

Or maybe he is a dumbass and someone on his campaign staff was the crafty one.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Literally everyone with passing knowledge of economics disagrees. That's just not what trade deficit means.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Both Trump and Musk have degrees from the supposedly reputable Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania.

If these two are evidence of their quality of graduates, it really raises questions about whether it was another US institution where ‘legacy’ and money buy admissions and it’s impossible not to graduate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

"Donald Trump was the dumbest goddamn student I ever had."

William T. Kelly, Wharton

This came to light immediately after Trump tweeted about Kelly calling him "the smartest student I ever had".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-shared-a-fake-quote-from-his-professor-who-actually-thought-trump-was-the-dumbest/ar-BB1m2TxH

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But Trump was able to graduate?

Is Wharton one of those US schools (like Harvard) where anyone lower than a tenured professor has to write justifications to file anytime they give a student less than a B-?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But Trump was able to graduate?

Allegedly, yes.

The second part I don't know about. But I would be entirely unsurprised to find that the Trumps simply purchased his diploma.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I do know about the latter. Knew some folks that taught there.

Few courses are taught by tenured faculty at the Ivies. Junior faculty have to justify final grades, PhD students and sessional have to justify any grades lower than B- on any assignment.

Coupling that with the ‘legacy admissions’ where children of alumni have a lower bar to admission, anyone with a B- average has a questionable degree.

No matter how good their programs are, for the lowers tier of students, they’re just institutions of transmitted privilege. Which is why the complaints about DEI mechanisms to balance that are so suspect.

I wasn’t aware whether UPenn was on the same system but it’s a huge thing for private universities reliant on tuition fees and big alumni donations.

It’s interesting how California is shutting down the practice of legacy admissions, and Stanford and USC are feeling the sting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They both know that's not how it works, what's important is that their vase doesn't so they can claim to have improved things by reducing the trade deficit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

The "tariffs for everyone guy" doesn't know what's going on, I'm shocked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I want you all to know that I blame the American voters for this. I mean those that abstained or voted Republicans. I curse you all.

[–] davidagain 2 points 3 days ago

I curse you all.

Unnecessary. Trump is their president. The blight is upon them whether they realise it or not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I did! Thanks 😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Yep, Americans are that stupid that they pay Canada and them get nothing back in return and they're all fine with that!

Of course this isn't the case, but the average American is dumb enough to do this

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"I think that in Trump's mind, he sees trade as a zero-sum game," Moshe Lander, an economics professor at Concordia University, told CBC News. "He's just hearing the word deficit. And that's the end of his math calculation."

He couldn't calculate anything even if he tried.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

This is a wild quote, because it's still trying to apply a lens that is focused on economic decision making.

Trump never pays his bills. He thinks paying people for their work or products is what suckers and losers do. He actively steals from people, and he thinks it's the smartest thing he does.

He thinks the US is wrong for paying for what it buys. Nothing more complicated than that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Trade deficit means you’re getting more stuff than the other side is.

He’d rather have the dollars than the stuff?

What are you gonna spend the dollars on if there’s no stuff?

Isn’t “too many dollars chasing too few goods” the textbook definition of inflation?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He’d rather have the dollars than the stuff?

I suspect that's exactly the case. He sees money as an end rather than a means. A regrettably common disease.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Like any common capitalist. Money is all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Money changers for ya... jesus warned us all about them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

He’d rather have the dollars than the stuff?

No, he wants both. That's why he doesn't pay his bills.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I subsidize my credit cards.

Time to invade MasterCard!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

this is starting to sound like sovereign citizen stuff.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Weird, you mean a country with a smaller population imports fewer things?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It's more like Canada produces a lot of the raw goods America consumes while being more self sufficient in manufacturing.

A larger population should be what creates a trade surplus, if anything, as citizens of industrial societies almost always produce more than they consume. And they consume a lot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All of this bullshit because some fucking guy couldn't properly set his windage.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe he was a time traveller sent back to fix things, but the travel sickness got to him

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Or he was too big to fit into the time machine, so half his brain got lost in the time loop somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

The chart there says 4 million barrels per day, so multiply that by 50 dollars a barrel times 365 days a year... 73 billion dollars, larger than the entire US trade deficit with Canada. If they want to eliminate it, all they have to do is stop buying oil.

[–] fourish 1 points 3 days ago

Trump doesnt claim, he just pulls it out of his ass making shit up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

It was 100b then 150b then 200b...

[–] Elw00t 4 points 4 days ago

It's really easy to put out numbers when they are made up on how you currently feel. Of course they are wrong, he doesn't care and neither do his followers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can’t reason with this a. hole no point trying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this guy is either stupid or maliciously pretending to be misinformed.

Either way there’s no point bothering with Dumbass Donald

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He is definitely not pretending

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don’t underestimate him. This is the guy who has gotten away with everything in his life with zero consequences.

He’s not some sort of bizarro Candide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I'm not underestimating his dangerousness. But the fact is, he's gotten where he is based on force of personality and people just letting him get away with things because giving in was easier than dealing with a whining man baby. No one expected him to gain a cult that quite literally worshipped him.

But none of that changes the fact that he is dumb and just does whatever whoever praises him or enriches him the most. He's not a puppeteer, he's a puppet. An extremely dangerous fool.