Same as uk, many UK citizens would probably fail the UK tests.
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US citizens, too
We took the US citizenship test in the first session of my first political science class back in college. Myself and a couple of others were the only ones to pass.
Here (Denmark) the test is based on a book used to prepare for the test. I've always been able to pass when I tried, without having read the book.
Your wrong. I workout and practice language everyday.
How many mistakes are there in those 2 sentences?
At least 3!
You're, work out?, practise, every day?
I have never seen someone use that spelling of practice in the USA.
I moght be wrong but is not practice a noun and practise a verb?
Not in the US.
Well then I am wrong.
Maybe the two spaces after the period?
IDK what platform you are using, but the 2 spaces at the end of a line, are to make new line work in standard Internet browsers.
Nothing to do with the browser, FYI, just the markdown interpreter - regardless of whether your client is a web app or otherwise.
As you say, two spaces before a carriage return indicates a line break in most flavors of markdown. Two carriage returns indicates a paragraph break.
I think they're referring to two spaces (as in spacebar) after the periods.
So am I!
I see two spaces rendered on Jerboa, but only one space rendered on the Lemmy web app. I mean specifically after "wrong."
Weird.
I use two spaces because I've been typing for a long time, lol
Good eye! I still do it because, to my eyes, it makes it easier to indicate sentence boundaries while skimming the text.
Some people say this is "wrong", and I won't enforce it on anyone, but I do it when I'm writing my own text. Not only do I like how it looks, but it's a habit I've had for close to 30 years. It's not worth fighting that level of muscle memory, especially when we have Find/Replace All! Haha
I have worked in France for 20+ years, and I still have to take that stupid test. It's expensive and bureaucratic too, guess it's not only ti test your language skills.
IIRC it's only valid a certain number of months too, explain that!
Well shit, I never thought I’d value the German bureaucracy. I’m an immigrant who teaches German classes in Germany and they waived my language requirement. I was honestly surprised, I figured I would just pay the stupid money and have the most relaxed oral exam in my life, but they were somehow organized enough to recognize my master’s degree in German.
I married a German though, and getting the marriage license took about five months, and it was only valid for six weeks.
getting the marriage license took about five months, and it was only valid for six weeks.
That sounds about right for government efficiency.
Félix Guyon of the Thot school that helps refugees and asylum seekers learn French said...
They're teaching that now?
Brb I have to enroll in the thot school.
The text states anyone applying for nationality must “provide evidence of a level of language enabling them to at least understand the essential context of concrete or abstract subjects in a complex test, to communicate spontaneously and to express themselves clearly and in detail on a wide variety of subjects”.
I mean, this is a challenge for a lot of people including me even in their birth tongue.
Scaré bleu
Scary blue indeed
🟦🫐BOO🐬💙
That reminds me of French lessons in my kids' school. In my daughters class were two French native speakers who nearly failed the course.
And the group of French teachers at the school were wondering why pupils usually dropped that subject at the first possible moment, I.e. in class 9.
So I'm old enough and from a poor (at the time) enough area that I was taught French from middle school to the first years of high school... I learned nothing.
I learned English by myself just by reading stuff online.
Just glancing at your post history, you did a damn good job learning for being self-taught! I would not have guessed you were not even a native speaker.
(The post just before you made this one may be an exception, but then that post is an exception to all languages.)
Thanks a lot! I've been an avid reader as a kid, I use it a lot online, and I also used to travel quite a bit for work, although that probably hindered me more than helping, as, aside from a bunch of visits to the US a looong time ago, I rarely visited English-speaking countries; everywhere else I always had to adapt my English to the local accents and common errors.
The best was visiting other romance-language-speaking countries, where we started off with English, then began incorporating each others' language until every time we ended up with weird mixes that I liked to call Desperanto.
This article misses a lot of details regarding the actual proficiency.
The way language proficiency in Europe is measured is with the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages (Abbreviated as CEFR, CEF, or CEFRL).
The date that the required French proficiency will change is January 1st 2026.
Most important proficiency changes:
- Up to 10 year temporary residency will change from A2 to B1.
- Permanent residency will change from B1 to B2.
(The actual definitions of these levels can be found at the CEFR link above. It's too big to post.)
French courses seem to teach these levels within these durations:
- A2: up to 200 hours
- B1: up to 400 hours
- B2: up to 600 hours
A2 can be reached with short form apps such as Duolingo. B1 often requires books or courses. B2 is where you'll most likely have to start conversing in French. (Duolingo is said to be able to teach B2 French, but I consider this questionable).
Duolingo will not teach you b2 in any language. If you want permanent residency isnt it just easier to find people to speak with? Idk what it is in other places but theres a sort of "language cafe" people here in sweden do. You basically just speak to practice the language.
Yes, that's why I wrote my message the way I wrote it.
People that would learn using apps and books will have a harder time now and will most likely not pass.
Really hard language and shitty education system!