And it's gonna be enforced, right?
Right?
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That's a great question! Normally the Executive branch enforces such actions but that's only a convenience. The judge in question can sanction the Trump administration in any number of other ways... Such as ordering courts to freeze (or seize!) their assets.
It would be an interesting situation if the judge froze or seized cabinet members or Trump's personal assets though. It's much more likely the Judicial branch would sort of seize (financial) control over these broken agencies by appointing special administrators. They would be well within their rights to do so!
Congress doesn't like it? They need to pick a winner by impeaching one of them. Except there's a big problem with impeaching a judge for such a ruling: The next judge that comes along might continue with the previous setup or rule exactly the same way.
Then what would Congress do? They could just keep impeaching judges but it's unlikely they would be able to actually do that since they don't have a supermajority in the Senate.
My prediction: That's when the Trump administration actually starts to get the military involved and tries to sack the Senate or just attempts to assassinate a few prominent Democrats.
Except he doesn't have the broad support from the people to actually be able to get away with something like that. It would be civil war. Or more like endless insurgency.
That sort of situation would result in all his billionaire friends losing nearly all of their wealth and drastically increases the likelihood of angry mob/guillotine situations.
Then again, I wouldn't put it past them to not really think that far ahead 🤷
The good news is that if this shit gets appealed to the fascists on the Supreme Court we know there is non a small chance that they will rule in favor of making Trump king.
How do we sue Congressmen for not doing their fucking jobs?
Every two years we get to pick new ones
The end result you described could be set off by LITERALLY anything happening right now. It's a matchbox sitting in a bed of hot coals. It'll be a miracle if it doesn't go off at this point.
I believe Congress would need to impeach him and remove him from offices, no?
This is such a shit show.
Congress impeaches, then there is a trial in the Senate. A simple majority for the impeachment. A supermajority 2/3s for the trial that convicts them essentially for whatever the impeachment was.
Note that defying a federal judge is breaking the constitutional process and members of the legislative branch have sworn an oath to uphold and protect those processes. Meaning when they do not vote to remove him, they are breaking their oath of office and likely could be considered to be committing treason.
There is going to be a lot of oaths broken soon
Their inaction since 2017 broke those oaths long ago.
This yelled from the rooftops
Apropos nothing, qualified immunity is what prevents you and me from suing Trump or Musk for millions of dollars. Without it, they could be found personally liable for any damage they cause.
But qualified immunity is not guaranteed. It can be stripped if a judge finds an official knowingly broke the law. For example, after defying a court order.
Also, did you know that you can sue people in state court? And if you win and the defendant won't pay, the state AG can simply give you the title to their real estate?
Food for thought to people living in NY or California...
Just FYI, QI has no actual legal basis, and is based on an illegal redaction of the laws that Congress passed in 1871
They're going to force us to enforce it, by force. Of course the Trump sucking corpo greedy fuck media won't spread that message though.
So is there, like, a mechanism to make them do it, or was the entier government just a gentleman's agreement?
The White House fired back almost immediately, predicting an eventual victory.
“Each executive order will hold up in court because every action of the Trump-Vance administration is completely lawful,” said Harrison Fields, a White House spokesman. “Any legal challenge against it is nothing more than an attempt to undermine the will of the American people.”
These people make me physically ill