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[–] teft 6 points 4 hours ago

I’ve been playing so much kingdom come deliverance 2 that I didn’t even notice PSN being down.

If you like RPGs try it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 hours ago

Sony’s uptime delusions crumbling faster than a PSN auth server. Fourteen hours of radio silence while charging for the privilege of digital serfdom? Masterstroke. Remember 2011’s month-long outage? At least we got free games as consolation—now they’ll just send thoughts and prayers via shareholder memos.

”Premium service” my ass. Paywalls for multiplayer, cloud saves held hostage, and a walled garden rotting from neglect. But hey, keep funding Zuck’s yacht repairs while your PS5 gathers dust. The 2011 apology tour is dead—2025’s mantra is ”fuck you, pay more.”

Reboot the servers, Jim. Or just admit the cloud was a screensaver all along.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 hours ago

As of about an hour ago, it is back up

[–] randon31415 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Musk is currently reviewing it for DEI terms. Also Trump just fired the Sony board and declared himself president of Sony.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 hours ago

That's your body suffering from whiplash as we're once again back in the era where you never know whether someone is telling the truth or not when they make a wild claim about the president like that.

[–] Stamau123 9 points 6 hours ago

a play on Trump purging the Kennedy Center and installing himself as chief

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This doesn't bode well.

The last time this happened was when Anonymous hacked PSN and took them down for a month after they went after Geohotz(cant remember the spelling) for jailbreaking/reverse engineering the ps3.

Radio silence like before as well. I hope they weren't breached again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago

Oh yeah, I remember that now!

[–] ampersandrew 185 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

Boy, it sure is a good thing that Sony charges a subscription fee for any and all network multiplayer traffic.

[–] billwashere 26 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And 99% of the games I “own”. So much for a relaxing Saturday playing games. Fuck you Sony.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Really? We had a family game night last night with the purchased digital edition of Until Dawn just fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Been a minute (this was a nice reminder that I hadn't even booted up my PS5 in almost a year...), but I want to say it depends on if you have your console set as your primary console or not. Primary doesn't need to go online to authenticate. Secondary does.

Most people just have a single console so it is auto-primary. But people who bought a ps5 pro or who do super convoluted account sharing shenanigans always have trouble when auth servers are down.

Also, I think the PS+ IGC requires network to make sure you still have PS+?

[–] billwashere 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I only have the one ps5. I did have a ps4 if that matters. Tried to play like 5 games this afternoon. All of them had a lock on the icon and when I tried to play it complained about PSN.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

PS4 may still be your primary console.

[–] billwashere 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’m wondering. I’ll look into that. Thanks for the heads up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

That was the case for me when I got my PS5, I had to manually set the PS5 to being the primary, even though I didn't even own the PS4 any more.

[–] garretble 5 points 8 hours ago

Unless the game has its own subscription, like Final Fantasy XIV.

Unless that has changed over the years. I'm not sure.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Looks like PlayStation’s Auth servers are down among everything else. Even if multiplayer was free, I don’t see how modern games would function without that service running. Who am I playing against? What’s their name? How did I get my account progress?

Just about everything multiplayer nowadays relies on account / Auth services. Especially on console.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 12 hours ago

Sure, but if it were free it's a "you get what you pay for" situation. People are a lot more forgiving when they aren't personally losing money.

[–] ampersandrew 23 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (9 children)

You used to be able to type in an IP address whether or not the official server is running. Sometimes you still can, but seeing as Baldur's Gate 3 has LAN and direct IP connection on PC but not on PlayStation, it sure seems like Sony is asking them to specifically remove the feature if they wanted it in the first place.

Then beyond that, you've got a mismatch behind what your money is actually for. It used to be for paying for their servers, but you often don't even connect to Sony's servers anymore. Plenty of games behind that same paywall have their own servers, like Call of Duty for instance, but Call of Duty's multiplayer is behind the same paywall as Helldivers 2, which is running servers on Sony's dime. And beyond that...the reason multiplayer is free on PC is because your purchases are funding them. The majority of game sales on consoles are now digital, just like Steam, and that is a trend that's accelerating. Meanwhile, the subscription fee compared to free online on PC is probably one of a multitude of reasons that people are leaving consoles for PC.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Free your mind! There is another way. Video game servers should be open-source, and the games should permit you to choose a custom server. This way, games can survive the bankruptcy of their creators' companies.

[–] Nibodhika 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't disagree completely, but it's not as easy as you think. We're not talking about server in the sense of a headless game client that will coordinate a match, we're talking about a whole infrastructure of micro services and a web of communications and APIs just to get a basic authentication working. Not to mention possibly encrypted hard coded addresses to contact. That being said I 100% agree that before a game is abandoned a plan should be put in place to allow people to keep playing it, even if it's complicated and cumbersome to setup, or even if it's as crude as removing authentication entirely.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

This would basically be my reply as well. Companies are in the game to make money, and setting up all this infrastructure, not to mention maintaining it, is NOT cheap.

[–] herrvogel 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody's gonna dispute the necessity of some sort of server somewhere in the mix. But does it need to be something like PSN? A central 3rd party service that most games only use because they're forced to?

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[–] AFreeLarryHoover 74 points 12 hours ago (4 children)
[–] essteeyou 47 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Last night I thought "this happened a few years ago, too, and we got free games as an apology" and now you tell me it was 14 YEARS ago!?

[–] Lost_My_Mind 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and I'm also telling you we'll get no free games this time. Business is more of a "fuck you" attitude in 2025.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

They gave out Wipeout and infamous for free out of that, I got a lot of play time out of those two games.

[–] Harvey656 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Your making me feel old... I remember when it happened. I was so pissed I couldn't play call of duty.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago

I was just able to get into Helldivers II on my PS5, so it's either coming back, or it's going to real shit

[–] [email protected] 49 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

If only there were a way to connect to a network without an intermediary like PSN. Damn shame that it's impossible.

[–] P1nkman 4 points 8 hours ago

I think ARPANET will have something like this once they got it working

[–] [email protected] 35 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've never thought about it before, but I wonder if the companies with games containing microtransactions can ask PSN for compensation for lost income due to long outages.

[–] benignintervention 29 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

I knew a guy who did this with Comcast for every minute his Internet was out. He'd call them every day for weeks until they cut him an account credit

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 hours ago

When I worked at a web host, we had people like that. Being support sucked. Like, yes, it sucks that your e-commerce site that uses horrifically outdated software is offline but, we don't offer quad nines, especially not on a $35/year shared hosting plan. And, honestly Drew, your site gets single-digit visits per month and sells erotica based upon the premise of Edgar Allen Poe being transported to 1990s Brooklyn and working as an apartment building super. At best, you're breaking even on that hosting bill.

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[–] ProIsh 15 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Finally picked up kingdom come 2 on my ps5 just to dust it off after not playing for years and this is my weekend. Well played Sony, well played

[–] WrenFeathers 2 points 5 hours ago

That’s a single player game. You need to be online to play it?

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds 13 points 12 hours ago

Bungie devs who were desperately hoping for a good Heresy dungeon launch: ...I'm getting fired aren't I

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

It annoys me that you can't even look at your trophies for games when PSN is down...

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