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Can we get a law in place that says if you have to sue the government to stop some obvious bullshit, that you recover your legal fees?
Laws only matter if the government wants them to matter.
Sovereign Immunity is a fucker of a concept.
Thats fine, I'm just as happy being fully "anti-religon" for equality.
Jesus is pretty cool. You show me a christian who follows jesus' teachings, and I'll have mad respect. You give me some dipshit doing the most anti-christlike shit imaginable, but with crosses all around, and I'll make fun of him forever. Just a way of un-tarnishing the brand.
How many EOs does this dickhead have now in these two weeks alone?
How many does a normal president have in a full four year term?
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
In truth it was very challenging to stay calm in the face of someone saying something so blatantly biased and false. Packaged as an opinion, of course, but presented as the truth.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made, but I know for a fact that the only thing I accomplished is that she's unlikely to make that particular statement in front of me again. No minds were changed that day. It's just sad.
As someone who actually IS persecuted in this country for things I cannot change about myself, I really don't get why someone would want to live under the delusion that they are being persecuted when they otherwise aren't. It's not fun and there's no benefit to being persecuted.
And by that, they mean something like this? Xtians get all kinds of privileges and everyone else has to convert or be a second class citizen?
They want to be David vs Goliath. Being the ones persecuted means that they can go on the offensive without feeling bad about it. It means whatever they do is justified as being a means of survival. It gives them an excuse.
Exactly, the Bible is written for the underdog. Constantly referencing persecution for the faith, which is non-existent in the USA, so they try to redefine what they see as micro aggressions as full on persecution. They simply want to be angry, righteous anger for Christ.
They view their Belief System (BS) being put on the same plane as other mythologies, new or ancient, as somehow being "persecuted", since they are so used to having unwarranted privileges.
They've seen that unwarranted privilege being chipped away, ever so slowly, as xtianity dies off in number of adherents in the United States (dwindling down to 60-some percent, now) - trending toward what more normal advanced countries of the West are like, and they fucking hate it. They want everyone and every part of the culture to have them up on a pedestal again, even if it means violence, and a lot of it, because "Jesus".
I have a family member who told me last year that they believe Christians are the most persecuted group in the USA, even more so than gay people.
I asked questions and challenged some of the statements being made
I imagine some of those questions included:
edit: A couple more additions.
Has marriage between two christians been illegal for nearly the entirety of the existence of the USA?
Are there camps that some misguided parents send their children to to be "deprogrammed" from being christian?
They're gearing up to roll out project 2025.
They're not "gearing up;" it's steamrolling us as we speak.
It ain't gonna be bloodless
Nope. Not at all, not even a little.
No freedom of religion without freedom FROM religion.
Resist a theocratic state.
"The First Amendment clearly says "Congress shall make no law" and this is an executive order. Seems constitutional to us"
Supreme Court (probably)
Jesus fuck I hate how plausible this is.
"I mean, there is no mention of the character of Jesus or their precious favorite book in the Constitution, and it's only the very First Amendment and all....and founders like Jefferson were QUITE CLEAR about their skepticism of xtianity's claims, but if you are True Originalists like we are, you'd understand how this is supposed to be a xtian nation!"
Also SCOTUS
DEI but just for Christians
There's a group of people that go around in white sheets with pointy hats and they burn crosses, often on other peoples property. That seems pretty anti-christian to me and should be the first to be investigated.
Everything about the GOP as very anti-christian. Jesus was a bleeding heart socialist by today's standards. I'm not sure what books these fools have been reading that says otherwise.
I am entirely serious when I say this:
The latest meme/talking point working its way through all the newer, e-celeb type american christian pastors, the ones that are extreme but not quite as bonkers as the qanon, I-am-a-prophet types...
The latest sermon topic is 'the sin of empathy'.
Wowwwwww
they don't read. their megachurch pastors tell them what the bible says about who to hate. they draw all their rhetoric from Leviticus and Numbers to justify their gross misinterpretation of Revelations. they ignore the gospels entirely. here are the things you need to know when dealing with christofascist propaganda
And by "anti-xtian bias" he means, not properly privileging xtianity.
That's what these assholes complaining about xtian "persecution" ALWAYS mean. They hate to be ignored, too. Being told that their rules are FOR THEM and not anyone else in their book club, it absolutely infuriates them.
the task force will work to fully prosecute anti-Christian violence and vandalism in our society
Yeah, Democrats did this already. They're called Hate Crimes and it's the law. Not a measley little EO.
You don’t understand yet. The words are a cover for their real intentions which are to go after the enemies of Christianity under the guise of investigating hate crimes.
Yes, nothing they say is what they really mean. Welcome to the last 40 or so years.
"moRE Of tHe SAmE" parrots the fool as the country falls.
No no but hate crimes are DEI bad word and also only happen to brown people, who deserve it!!!1!1!
Good thing I'm not biased against Christians specifically. Fuck all religions equally - fair and balanced.
Every time I read something he said it hurts my brain. Everything about his speech patterns is so fucking stupid.
Doesn't this still require specific existing laws (as in actual statutes) to charge someone with violating? Or can they just charge and convict on arbitrary things they don't like, now?
The thing with Trump is, he doesn't care. He will do whatever he can until he's told he can't. So, until this gets challenged and makes its way through the courts, he will do it. So much of our system is built on "norms" that he can get away with doing things that seem like they shouldn't be allowed. Until democrats start doing the same, they'll keep losing for failing to do what the people want.
I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere. But if this ain’t proof that there’s a genuine desire to install a theocracy in the US, then I don’t know what will convince anyone.
The fact that a President even suggests this is a clear tell that some want the US being Iran but with Jesus.
Yeah, a depressing amount of Americans believe this country was founded as a xtian one. 60%
Six in 10 U.S. adults said the founders intended America to be a Christian nation, according to a 2022 Pew Research Center survey. About 45% said the U.S. should be a Christian nation. Four in five white evangelical Protestants agreed with each assertion.
Which is just flat wrong, of course, and doesn't really need any debate: it just was not founded as a xtian nation, and that was quite intentional. But that's the level of stupidity we are dealing with.
And something like 45% of the country WANT this country to be a xtian nation, which is also depressing.
Half the founding fathers were closet atheists using 'Deism' as a fig leaf.
I mean he can sign it, it’s going literally nowhere.
This is incorrect. He can sign it, and Bondi will start bringing these cases to court. One would think that it would immediately stop there as the first judge she argues in front of dismisses the case for being blatantly unconstitutional and having her brought up on sanctions for multiple blatant violations of the defendant's constitutional rights.
But in this court system? I wouldn't be so sure. At the very least, I expect at least some people to get caught up in this dragnet and have their lives upended for years until the Supreme Court finally stops dragging their feet. But given this administration, this Supreme Court, and the number of MAGA judges that Trump can forum shop through, there is a non-zero chance this actually succeeds.
It wouldn't be the first time this administration and SCOTUS hand-waves away constitutional protections.
Keep in mind that they also broke into the Treasury system and own the paychecks of every federal employee. If that's not leverage, I don't know what is
As a reminder: The guy defending Christianity is a rapist and adulterer who set free 1500 criminals, including pedophiles and child rapists.
If Jesus was real, he would bitch slap Trump so hard it would take the paint off his face!