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Great... US cars finance a Nazi supporter and Chinese cars are spy machines on wheels... Maybe, German cars are superior in the end...
VW group is leading in Denmark now on EV, and is now almost twice as big on EV sales as Tesla!!
But the laugh gets better if you read on.
Because Skoda and Audi are closing in too, only 10-15% behind Tesla, and those are also owned by VW, and then just to cement their dominance, they also have Cupra with about half the sales of Tesla, and just for shit and giggles, they also have Porsche, which is the only luxury brand on the EV list besides Mercedes.
For January Model Y has dropped from being #1 sold model to 6th place!!! With WV group having 4 models that are more popular than Model Y!!
Model 3 is way down the list, so it's not just people waiting for the new model Y. Tesla sales are plummeting for real.
Correction: Android and apple carplay are just as worse, maybe even more so.
If you're not American it doesnt really matter. Your data in china or your data in the US. Both are bad, m'kay?
That's uplifting news.
Nice! Fuck miso and that orange asshole.
Those cars are crap anyways people should have stopped buying them for that reason alone years ago
Absolutely, they've been praised for best range for the price, but the cars are crap, with 30% failing 4 year safety check in Denmark.
They also have a number of issues, on how functions are handled, both essential and non essential, that I personally suspect is the reason they have the worst accident record of all brands. Blinker on the steering wheel instead of on a stick, is OK in maybe 95% of the situations you need to use them, but the remaining 5% it's awkward and distracting, and maybe people completely fail to use them correctly.
So yes they are crap, in part because Tesla ignores safety or is even ignorant about why things are done like they are. And this is shown blatantly clear with the 4 years safety check here in Denmark. No other brand is even close to being as bad as Tesla.
Congratulations Germany, you did well.
Tesla sales are down 59% for January Year Over Year, and EV sales are up 50% for January also compare to last year. And the marketshare is stated to have dropped from 14% to 4%. That means that Tesla marketshare dropped a whopping 73% !!!
Looking from the other side, it means that Tesla only has just above a fourth (27%) marketshare left, declining almost 3 fourths in JUST ONE YEAR!!!
That's absolutely insane and normally unheard of losses for a major brand.
one factor behind Tesla’s sales decline in Germany could be that consumers were waiting for the upgraded Y model
I seriously doubt the new model will make much difference, it may help Tesla a little, but the truth is Tesla aren't really better than the competition anymore, facelift or not. Here in Denmark VW group thoroughly beat Tesla on EV sales for the year 2024. So no doubt Tesla is already in steep decline in many places. From what we know right now, sales of Tesla are in steep decline in Germany, France, Norway and Denmark.
Only UK is known to have only moderate decline, but they probably think it's independence for UK to buy Tesla, because fuck Europe for some reason???
It’s more likely to be political apathy with the Brits. Most of us don’t seem to get and/or bother about politics…also only around 25% of the country were dense enough to vote for Brexit.
Yeah you are probably right, as the saying goes: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
But then again, Brexit was mostly about xenophobia, which is both.
So I suspect it's more that the 2 go together.
I’d say you’re a bit right also. People here love Trump and Musk also, but maybe not the same people.
As a final point, I fucking hate Brexit…”one small step for Europe, one giant leap backwards for Great Britain”.
Yeah it's like when people from UK ask if there aren't any benefits? Oh yes there is, not as many as there are drawbacks, and unfortunately the benefits are all on the EU side. 😋
Ah well, the Brits are still our friends, where would we be if it hadn't been for Monty Python? I suppose formal cooperation will be build up again over time, like we have with Norway. But it would have been better if Brexit had never happened, and that's on both sides IMO.
AfD in Germany also love Musk now that he has expressed support for them. There are idiots everywhere.
I hope Tesla completely collapses. Will enjoy seeing Musks wealth and influence fade
I fear he is now in position to force goverment to buy his shit cars. Cybertrucks for cops etc.
I'm torn on this one. On the one hand, fuck Musk. On the other hand, the US replacing huge fleets of gas vehicles with electric and building out all the attendant infrastructure would be a huge climate win.
Plus, it's a vehicle that's likely to be shit for its owner, so I'm cool with cops having them en mass
He is, otherwise he will get funds in some way or another. Rich people can't become poor today.
That would be amazing. Cybertruck cops? They'll be letting everyone go when the trucks breaks down.
you mean "police needs to buy more cybertrucks, so they always have a bunch of spares when they break down due to a puddle"
Ha, you think that the backups even arrive to replace/repair? They'll break down in transit!
Yeah probably, but if this forces Tesla to close all factories outside America.
A lot of them probably remember what appeasing Nazis leads to and don’t want to fund their own antagonist.
There are very few that remember left, You have to be 90 years old to remember WW2.
But many of us learned about Fascism and Nazism in public school, and we have seen the historic very clear evidence of how evil it is.
I can't go anywhere without seeing a few memorials of world war 2. They're everywhere so we wouldn't forget.
Lots of brands made a comeback after they flushed the Nazis.
You mean Porshe or Volksvagen?
BMW, fanta, Kodak, Hugo boss... The Pope lol
“fun” fact, Porsche, the guy who founded the car company was a card carrying nazi. Pretty devoted. Just a great example of how the actual elites can support and benefit from insane wars without long term consequences.
"I mean did he have a choice? Think of the poor ceos" /s
IBM
Kawasaki, Mitsubishi, and Mizumo, too
Good.
It's been a couple of years since Teslas were the go-to option, at least this is making people catch up to the fact.
So sad So sad🎉
I am pretty sure that the dealership drives the trucks around because I don't see them the farther I get from it.
next the number of not yet deceased tesla owners will shrink too.