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[–] Treczoks 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not permitted in other countries for a whole list of safety issues. Only good in a zombie Apocalypse, or to drive into crowds with the intention to murder as many people as possible.

[–] rtxn 38 points 1 month ago (4 children)

good in a zombie Apocalypse

...as a makeshift barricade when it inevitably runs out of juice. Perhaps as an explosive trap. You could strip it for parts and resources. But for transportation? Fuck no. A vehicle is only as reliable as its source of fuel. Keeping the electric grid alive would be impossible in a fallen society.

If you want reliable mobility in a zombie apocalypse, get on a bike.

[–] PieMePlenty 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'd say with the abundance of solar panels today, charging EV's wouldn't be that problematic. Gasoline would be hard to get. Bio diesel would be a good alternative but im not sure new vehicles would play nice with it so like pre 2000s diesels would be good. Wood gas is an option but again, would it work on modern cars? EV's seem the easiest to fuel to me in a complete apocalypse. Thoughts?

[–] dingus 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah I was in a scenario some months back where people didn't have access to electricity or gasoline for nearly a week. Some didn't have access to drinking water. It was mildly apocalyptic. I had never seen anything like that and it was a bit stressful having to work but also not knowing if I'd eventually run out of gas before I would have access to it again. Felt like a mini-apocalypse.

[–] rtxn -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Clouds.

Without the power grid to back them up, solar panels are only as reliable as the weather. A week of overcast skies will drain everything you have in your batteries. No output during the night either. There's also the problem of theft, vandalism, natural wear, and the difficulty of finding replacement parts.

If you have solar energy and a way to store it, it should be used for more vital applications, like lights, cooking, and refrigeration.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And how much gasoline are you refining in your backyard on those cloudy days?

[–] rtxn 10 points 1 month ago

I don't understand, please show me which part of this bike needs gasoline to function.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know a lot about solar panels, but wouldn't they output at least some power with clouds? Like you still get some sunlight through the clouds, wouldn't the panels be able to use it?

[–] rtxn 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Some, but the output drops significantly. Solar panels like direct sunlight. Even a thin cloud layer can reduce the output just by both blocking and diffusing sunlight.

(The graphs are just for illustration, I have no context for them)

A car-sized EV's convenience is wasteful when energy is scarce and other options are available.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Seems like e-bike with foldable solar panels would be the best? Because even when there's no sunlight, you just have a bit heavier bike, but when there is some, you'd go faster.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

"Alright, listen up folks. We've finally managed to wall off the area against creepers, and we finally got the old generator working. However, electricity will still be restricted until further notice, because Jerry needs the full output to recharge his Cybertruck™ to avoid battery damage."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Or an ebike and get some foldable solar panels and a second battery.

[–] Treczoks 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Somehow, they always manage to have some source of power in those movies.

[–] rtxn 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Zombie flicks are not exactly known for their strict adherence to realism. Residential power would likely be the first to go, if only to reserve generator capacity and fuel for military, medical, and government facilities, and rich assholes' mansions.

Maintaining the electric grid takes an incredible amount of work and the tight cooperation of all of its facilities. If one or several large generator were to shut down, it might cause a cascading collapse. Executing a black start is a massive challenge at the best of times, and probably impossible in a post-collapse society.

[–] Pieisawesome 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Additionally gasoline degrades after some time and would be mostly useless after 4-5 years without substantial additives and work to bring it back into shape.

I believe kerosine can last up to 10yrs

[–] rtxn 1 points 1 month ago

Not useless, but it can go bad much quicker. A few years ago I lost a rotary hoe because the engine had been damaged and the carburetor had gotten clogged. The fuel was less than a year old, but closer in color to cooking oil.

If gasoline sits in open air or a non-sealed container for a long time, its lighter fractions will eventually evaporate. The heavier fractions can cause blockages and misfires. It can still be used, but you have to dilute it with fresh gasoline. If it happens while inside an engine, the carburetor should be rinsed with fresh gasoline to remove clogs.

[–] RQG 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair apocalyptic scenarios become more realistic each day. Still wouldn't want to rely on that thing though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

An electric vehicle capable of both highway and off road travel would be a solid choice during the apocalypse, if it was reliable.

F150 lightning it is.

[–] ccunning 2 points 1 month ago

Could explain his recent actions; trying to juice those cybertruck sales…

[–] PugJesus 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's such a dogshit looking block. Not even a cool looking block.

[–] Eheran 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Honestly I could say that about a large portion of all card, but people buy them. That is really not a good argument against them. Better focus on all the actual shit instead, like... how they can't do what the vehicle type is supposed to be for.

[–] PugJesus 10 points 1 month ago

I dunno man, most modern cars are either slightly cool blocks or at least dogshit in a utilitarian way. Hatchbacks excepted.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It is supposed to generate money for Muskler. It did that, even if that stagnates now. So not a total failure.

[–] jaybone 2 points 1 month ago

Some blocks are good blocks. I assume.

[–] frunch 15 points 1 month ago

Maybe they'll wanted to see if Tesla will sue him for selling it, lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

What a silly billy

[–] oxomoxo 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Original one was about a multipla.

[–] TBi 3 points 1 month ago

That was actually a good car though.

[–] krowbear 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I saw a car carrier hauling several cybertrucks at once. Would not want to be driving multiple of them in this politcal climate!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The trucker probably didn't get to choose their load.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Probably, but I wouldn't bet on them having a problem with it.

People give the Teamster president shit for not endorsing Harris but the reality is most of the union has been brain rotted for decades.