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You may not like their posts but that doesn’t automatically make them a troll. If they’re trying to get a reaction, then yes, but sometimes, these “trolls” aren’t even trolls

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[–] NineMileTower 2 points 56 minutes ago

Calling someone a troll is admitting you lost the argument, in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

i don’t. i see plenty of trolls whom i agree with, they are just dicks about it obviously looking to get a rise out of people.

i treat them the same way as all trolls: ignore, downvote, block, report if against the rulez. not that hard nor complicated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

Makes sense, I’m talking about people who call everyone a troll and complain about it.

At least you’re not like that

[–] Essence_of_Meh 32 points 21 hours ago

I feel like the amount of actual trolls and bad-faith posters made many people hyper vigilant about anything that looks like a potential bait. The general polarization also causes people to react more rashly rather than approaching something in good faith and responding in polite and constructive manner.

That's not to say everyone is irrational and wrong about how they react but it really does seem like some would rather yell at any sign of opposition or doubt instead of talking it out. It's an unfortunate result of the times we live in, to some extent.

[–] MothmanDelorian 30 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Many people do not understand how to politely disagree. Sometimes they will accuse people of things because they cannot properly communicate their views

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago

Also fragility.

[–] Shardikprime 4 points 15 hours ago

Oh I'll bring the popcorn

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Ive had people call me a troll or a trump supporter because I think the democrats are also bad for supporting genocide. I think these people are just brutally stupid. That’s the only reason I can think of for someone not being able to fathom that I don’t like genocide.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It’s a pattern of behavior. If a user spends their time nitpicking every minor detail of a comment, but seems to be incapable of understanding that other people have different ideas, or worse purposefully parses someone’s language incorrectly just to continue an argument back and forth without any progress or even a desire to see a resolution, only wanting to have the last word, I consider that to be trolling. Nobody has benefited from the interaction, and everybody leaves frustrated, annoyed, and only further entrenched in their original position.

I think people have pretty different ideas of what behavior counts as trolling, but simply disagreeing with a user or not liking their posts doesn’t make them a troll.

[–] Shardikprime 1 points 6 hours ago

My dude that's like, 99% of Lemmy 🤣

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

it's just easy for others to resort to their headcanons than waste time and braincells for anything that they think don't benefit them.

being open and understanding is hard work yo

[–] Addv4 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Because it's trolls more often than not.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 22 hours ago

Fair enough

[–] saltesc 12 points 21 hours ago

Some times Person A can be so fallacious or incorrect, Person B may assume they're intentionally wasting time by trolling, doubting that Person A is actually unintentionally that incompetent or incapable of discourse.

This usually starts when Person A ignores what Person B has said or starts applying common argument fallacies, seemingly for the sake of being right as a priority over empathising or broadening perspective.

Of my many years socialising on the Internet, it should be very rare to be called a troll; so much so that if it happens, it's likely I'm being a total twat entirely out of touch with reality. So, if you're finding this happens to you regularly, it may be food for thought to at least listen/read what someone is saying and ponder on it before responding. If you start wasting their time, prepare tocontinue being called a troll.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 21 hours ago

Too many people don't know what trolling actually is, and also assume anything said to them is hostile.

Trolling implies intent. Are they trying to piss you off, or are you just being an over sensitive little bitch?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago

It's probably an easier pill to swallow than the idea that someone might have valid reasons to disagree with them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

these 'trolls' are just regular users.

Umm, every human is a regular user. Every regular user comes with these defaults - 1) instinct to react, and 2) defend their worldview. It takes patience and mental effort to not instinctively react, but rather shut up & ponder & reflect. 49 out of 50 want to win the debate but only 1 out of 50 wants to solve the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] AbouBenAdhem 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

In some cases, assuming the poster is a troll is the more charitable alternative.

[–] Deestan 5 points 22 hours ago

If you give a specific example, it's easier to give an answer that might help understanding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

Either

  1. They’re a troll
  2. The replier is the troll
  3. the replier is an idiot
[–] [email protected] -3 points 20 hours ago

calling people trolls has become excuse just like calling everything harassment. its for people who have no arguments and are very sensitive snowflakes that probably should not be using the internet in the first place.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

You're trolling here, right?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 22 hours ago

I’m not, I’m just asking