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[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Things I've learnt:

  • the American continental army tried to take Quebec early in the war but were unsuccessful

  • inhabitants of British Canadian territory did not have the same sentiment towards Independence as in the 13 American colonies, it was far more sparsely populated, lived in closer association with indigenous people, and was not economically large enough to consider independence

  • after the war, many British loyalists left America and settled in Canada causing the cultures to diverge even more

  • Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin and other bits all used to be part of British Québec

  • America attempted to claim modern day Quebec in the Paris peace talks after the war

  • in the end the British surrendered only the above territories with the border becoming more or less the modern US-Canadian one

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Kyle_The_G 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

We burned down the white house at some point I think.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Care to demonstrate a second time?

[–] blattrules 23 points 2 days ago

Help us out and do it again.

[–] PostnataleAbtreibung 16 points 2 days ago

Not in the war of independence but one war later (British-American war).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

The war of 1812.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because it remained loyalist.

As for why... Probably due to more complex relations with American Indians and the French, and didn't have a new ruling elite in waiting to give it equal footing in an independent North America.

[–] 11111one11111 -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What? Why would you make all this up? Lol none of this is factually correct.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

More complex relations with American Indians:

  • In modern day Canada there was much more cross cultural marriage and contact between the American Indians and settlers. You had larger Metis communities, and the settlers were fewer in number and lived in smaller settlements that had more day to day contact with American Indians. Meanwhile, in the 13 colonies, one of the key causes of the rebellion was that the British had ruled out colonial expansion west of the Appalachians. Also, by even this early point many Amerindian tribes had been pushed out of this eastern area, and were more seen as a threat than people to cohabit with.

More complex relations with the French:

  • The 13 Colonies were eager for French support against the British from an early point. However, a lot of modern day Canada had been French territory ceeded to the British following the 7 Years War, prior to which there had been much raiding and fighting between the French and British settlers and indeed allied Indian Nations.

Didn't have a new ruling elite in waiting to give it equal footing in an independent North America:

  • The colonial elite of the 13 colonies were much wealthier and generally better travelled and tied into global networks than the elite of the provinces in modern day Canada. They were further from being economically independent, and ceeding from Britain would have made them entirely dependent on the poorer, but much closer colonies to the south, which would've greatly limited their political power making them more client than fully independent.

So that's the longer version. Please help correct my misunderstandings and mistakes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

it was still pretty native at that point. its like why didn't areas west of the colonies participate. The major cities were in the us colonies and up there was basically outposts for hunter/traders. Was not even year around settlers till the 1600 and it did not grow as fast as down south.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Je suis pas britannique et je suis Canadien

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 9 points 2 days ago

I meant, at the time, it was a British colony