As an aspiring gardener, I have successfully killed mint and blackberries. :(
this post was submitted on 19 Jan 2025
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General location? Outdoor I assume?
Yeah, zone 9b, inland Cali.
We had blackberries in our backyard growing up. Every year we would cut and dig up as much of every plant as we could possibly see and we would scrape the top 6 inches of soil to move it far away.
We would burn them all before we churned the soil and burned some more.
We tried every trick and "natural" solution people recommended, but nothing ever stopped them from coming back.
My super hippy mom got so fed up she bought turbo cancer death chemicals and sprayed them everywhere. The blackberries finally stopped coming back.
It's been 15 years and shes still mad that's how she finally got rid of the blackberries.
Burn and churn is actually fantastic for the soil. Ofc they kept coming back.
Wait are Concord grapes really that tenacious? I love concords...
Plants can be more aggressive just by nature.
Generally, it's probably more location dependent. Concord grape (a cultivar of fox grape) is native to eastern US https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/vitis/labrusca/
So if you're in this area it may not be a big deal.
Virginia Creeper is also native to that area, and folks consider it a weed because it grows fast. Even though it's native, and the colors slap in the fall.
Keep your concords
Oh I was speaking less from concern than excitement. I have a brown thumb but I love concords, so if I can't kill them, that's a game changer?
They need them some goats. They will clear out every damn thing.
You can rent goats. :)
You used to be able to rent goats on Amazon, but I think they ended that.
Oh shit. This isn't marijuana. It's knotweed! That explains everything!
My vote is japanese knotweed is going to win, and it will do so with ease in my experience of seeing how difficult it is to get rid of.
Maybe the previous resident of the house was a scifi writer actually worth their salt and they created the plant royale to observe what that part of the earth would be uniformly covered in after the wild ecosystems are gone.
What am I kidding scifi writers only care about serious man topics like space war and space politics and the specific kinds of engines on imagined starships...
looks down at the unfolding mass extinction
nothing to talk about here but electric sheep..
I like space war but space politics sounds really dumb. I want Neolithic cultures on pseudo ringworlds slung on planetary tethers down to supermind AI machine worlds beyond their wildest comprehension built by the star gods left behind in the wake of the human species.
Is that too much to ask?
I think Ian M. Banks ('The Culture' series) already had that, unless that's specifically what you were referencing. Though humanity wasn't a part of The Culture, as explicitly explained when they were viewing us like apes in a zoo, so the ringworlds with primitive cultures on them that had AI machine minds tending them weren't from the wake of humanity.
I think this is what I'd call close but no cigar. My main difference is I want humanity to be the ancient machine mind makers, with said machine minds being in the image of man, but molded to our old beliefs regarding gods. We made many minds for the many gods, and they outlasted our species. Now it's just the gods maintaining what humanity left behind, maybe interacting with new sentient species that have found the remnants of humanity and are studying them. One of these days I think I'm just going to have to write this big messy bastard out myself
I'm not very knowledgeable in existing works, but Stray is an incredible game that explores this idea I think. I haven't finished it but what I've played so far is fantastic and immersive in that sort of world
You could write it?
I think I'm gonna have to write it.
Well, in a weird way that reminds of the background story to the board game Bonfire...
No ringworlds, just a dark planet with no ambient light to survive by.
https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/210854/the-world-of-bonfire-the-background-story
https://hallgames.de/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/The-world-of-Bonfire_web.pdf
Is this Vancouver island? If it is, add english broom, morning glory and kiwi vine :p
I was today old when I found out that kiwi grows on a vine.
oh, cool. I looked up pictures. I was sure it grew on a tree
I thought for sure it was a tree.
The worst part about my new kiwi knowledge is that they can be grown in my area but take 5 years to give fruit and you need a male and a female plant. I love kiwis and would love to grow my own, but 5 years?!
5 years for a vine seems like a lot yea. Since we just had our land devastated by cyclone Chido, I recently planted Jack seeds. 6 of them have sprouted (long way to go from this to a tree, but still a small success!), and my neighbour informed me that they will only give fruit in 8 to 10 years. Patience...
Kind of sounds like it doesn't it?
Gotta say I love those big Himalayan bkackberries, though... despite the lacerations harvesting them!
Berries taste better when you're bleeding
This is like the opposite of permaculture
Temporaculture
Definitely not the UK because you can't even legally sell a house with knotweed in the garden!
You can sell the house - it’s just not so straight forward for the buyer to get a mortgage.
That was it!
We had blackberry vines in the backyard when I was little along a fence bordering with a neighbor (I think they originally started on their side of the fence) and I cried when they cut them down. They were so delicious!
Never understood the problem with English Ivy. It only grows in the shade, you can see the line along my house where the sun never hits.
Never seen it in the wild, can't imagine. And if you don't want it around, rip it up. The root system is extremely shallow, couldn't be easier to kill.
Planted bunches of it year before last at camp. It's all either dead or barely hanging on.
It depends on the area. English Ivy is not native to the US, and it can fucking suck. It can easily take over entire areas. Since it re roots itself, it's awful to remove.
It's great in it's native environment
Just.. don't use it in the US. Plant natives plants. There are lots of incredible native vines.
Speaking as someone who lives in the Pacific Northwest, that shit can take full sun to full shade, grow insanely fast, and choke out even the largest trees. Leave a small piece in the soil by accident, and you’ve got a new monster-sized plant before you can blink.
It all depends on where you live. Lucky you that you live in a place where ivy behaves itself. Not everyone gets to be that lucky.
Well if it grows in the shade, then the invasive potential is gonna be in a forest, isn't it?
Growing tree to tree, choking out every other plant as it goes
Nope. The sun moves around, sunup to sundown, and changes over the seasons. There is one small spot by my house the sun never hits.
As I said, I've planted it in my own forest, light is killing it. And if you don't want it around? A light tug will completely uproot it.
The mint and blackberries are native, but the rest is invasive. Better add some loostrife, caragana or knapweed for good measure
Mint is probably not one of the many native mints :(
Mint and blackberries are representing the home team. Strong competitors all around
i'm pretty sure that is named nut weed