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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Notice how people are always quick to be suspicious of Chinese food but we don't see the same treatment of all the various "normal" products people regularly consume that contain red dye 3 (like pez, strawberry milk, etc.).

ETA (Edited to Add): see Chinese Restaurant Syndrome, for example:

The controversy about MSG is tied to racial stereotypes against East Asian societies.[25][26][27][28][29] Herein, specifically East Asian cuisine was targeted, whereas the widespread usage of MSG in Western processed food does not generate the same stigma.[30] These kind of perceptions, such as the rhetoric of the so-called Chinese restaurant syndrome, have been attributed to xenophobic or racist biases.[31][32][33][34][35][36]

Food historian Ian Mosby wrote that fear of MSG in Chinese food is part of the United States' long history of viewing the "exotic" cuisine of Asia as dangerous and dirty.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

For some reason the way the breading on these things looks weirds me out. They look like little newborn rodents or something... Makes me think of the "Poplers" episode of Futurama.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

You just made it more appetizing to me by comparing them to popplers. Every time I watch that episode I wish I could enjoy a poppler at fishy joes.... They make it look so good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Those came to my mind immediately, too!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They look like fried bits of tumors or something. Too round, too smooth. Like those gross cancer pigs in The Outer Worlds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You're gonna shit your pants if you ever see tempura

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Eaten plenty of it. Don't really enjoy the extra smooth way they look compared to more crispy looking tempura and many other frying techniques.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

All hail red 40!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] halcyoncmdr 69 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There is actual evidence of some dyes causing behavioral issues in some children.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9052604/

[–] ickplant 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It happened to my son. When he was 2, he would barely talk and had behavioral issues. We stopped red and yellow dye, and within two weeks he was much calmer and saying full sentences. No lie. Most people don’t believe us, but it most definitely happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

For science, you must now reintroduce him to the dyes and record the results.

Further testing will be done on a double-blind basis.

[–] ickplant 4 points 14 hours ago

Eventually he did start eating them again, maybe when he was about 8? It didn’t seem to cause the same issues then, but it’s hard to tell because he has severe ADHD, and I didn’t exactly measure his symptoms when in and off the dye. He is 18 now so it’s hard to remember.

[–] otterpop 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Out of curiosity what foods had the dyes in them that you had to cut? I imagine it's in some things you'd never think of

[–] ickplant 4 points 14 hours ago

A lot of it was obvious, like dessert foods. But some were sneakier. I couldn’t tell you for sure because that was 16 years ago. It was a whole diet called the Feingold diet, and it was pretty restrictive.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There may also be evidence of certain red foods being red because of ingredients other than red food dye.

[–] Diplomjodler3 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No way! Water you trying to say food can have natural colours?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

Almost as if what's in the photo, for all we know, might be strawberry mush.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like that they'll admit that, then in the same breath say sugar has no affect on kids.

[–] halcyoncmdr 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sugar itself doesn't, I've never seen a study showing an actual link between the two. It's instead excitement to getting something special, not the sugar causing a chemical reaction. Causation and correlation are different.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago

As an ADHD person, the "all these problems are caused by sugar" conversation has always been an extra hilarious one for me.

And then I post this.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Heh, I was first laughing, but looks like it indeed caused behavioral problems for some kids: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythrosine#United_States

[–] egrets 6 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, although sweet-and-sour sauce in the US typically has E129 (Red Dye No 40) rather than E127 (Red Dye No 3), which the FDA are banning. There is a whole bunch of anecdotal correlation drawn between E129 and behavior, though, so it wouldn't be a huge surprise to see it reviewed in the future.

[–] YarHarSuperstar 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It actually is. Several people I know have this issue, I think they're all autistic people or people with ADHD, so that may be related, just as a note.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have ADHD and probably also the 'tism and I've never felt like hurting others or myself after eating sauce that happened to be red because it contained red ingredients. After eating anything, really, for that matter.

[–] Passerby6497 2 points 15 hours ago

My son (diagnosed with the tsim but too young for his inevitable had diagnosis) gets very disregulated after eating items high in sugar or after having too much screen time. No clue why, he just becomes a little asshole and takes his energy out on the people and animals around him. Thankfully the screen time issue has gone down from "any" to more than 20-30 minutes so he can occasionally watch educational kids programming.

Count yourself lucky you don't have to deal with that. It's maddening at the best of times, especially when all the experts we talk to say we're already doing everything they recommended.....

[–] YarHarSuperstar 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't say every autistic person or person with ADHD had this problem, that's not how it works. I'm just saying that anecdotally I know of this phenomenon, and have noticed a correlation with autism and ADHD.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I would note that the OP doesn’t talk about wanting to hurt people or intending to do it, just that they did. For a child that could easily be something like getting too excited and playing too roughly or acting impulsively in a way that winds up with them or someone else getting hurt.