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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/lemmyshitpost

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For some reason earlier today I looked up a giant list of all sins and I've made a few conclusions.

1: Lust is overrated. It's too broad of a concept and there are significantly more specific sins that can be committed.

For example, lusting after a woman is bad... Homosexuality (depending on the translation technically) is also bad... So what's left? Loving yourself? No! Also bad! All of these are sins and personally I think all 3 are epic and should be done way more often.

2: stealing and theft are listed as different sins... ??

3: being drunk and throwing parties that involve alcohol are both sins. Personally I don't drink so this doesn't affect me in the slightest... But the most hardcore jebus people I've ever met have had a beer in their hands and party whenever a ball is being thrown.

4: did you know that it's actually illegal to swear an oath? Meaning that if you don't want to sin... It's impossible to swear into office or give a court testimony... Kinda fucked up for "gods given government" or whatever the fuck

5: honestly I'm just a big fan of "effeminacy" and I should buy another skirt tbh. Need more effeminate men/mascs in my life.

6: I'm not sure if this message counts as "idle words" "vain Jangling" or "jesting" more but I wouldn't mind being able to knock out 3 sins at once.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

For the alcohol thing, it's mostly about excess. Otherwise you have to ignore the first miracle Jesus performed was essentially a beer run.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah for sure. Drinking on its own isn't a problem.

Drinking during a celebration though seems to be an issue.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Again the miracle was a beer run for a wedding, soni think celebration and drinking can go together.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

I've read that that the 7 deadly sins are just "reverse extrapolates" of the ten commandments, e.g: "Do not commit adultery" -> Lust.

Even the "original sin" (disobedience) is extrapolated.

Which means they're not legally binding as a result.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

To me honestly lust is just lying about sex. Being poly when a partner tells me they had somebody over to fuck while I've been on my 3 day work stretch I'm like high five buddy get it but finding a dating app on their phone I didn't know about or intimate texts I didn't know about or that they cut into my time with them and told me they were sick or working when they were with another person are all not ok. Same thing when I've made relationship fuckups it was never really the having sex with someone else specifically it was that I was doing that after saying I was willing to be monogamous and not fessing up when I realized I couldn't be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

FYI, the sin of envy has its roots in the 10 commandments.

Yahweh, one of El's Cananite head god sons, as an invention of protector of the Israelites, has Moses declare that no god is above him, and the "though shalt not covet" commandment is an order to kill all Cananites and destroy their idols instead of taking them for their gold and silver value. Israelite hasbara evil was born.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stealing and theft are technically two different things. Piracy is stealing but isn't theft.

HOWEVER theft is almost always stealing, so I'm equally confused as you.

[–] TaTTe 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can you explain how they're different? The definition I found makes them sound identical: "theft; the action or crime of stealing" (Oxford dictionary).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago

Theft deprives the owner of their property.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 day ago

That's wrong. And the comment your replying to gives you the explanation. But in case that's not enough: theft deprives people of something while stealing doesn't. Copying is not theft.

[–] Ensign_Crab 5 points 1 day ago

In most cases oath and affirmation are legally interchangeable. You can affirm that you are telling the truth without swearing an oath.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Swearing an oath "in vain" is not allowed. Ie, don't swear in the holy name and then go back on your word. As I understand it. That would be the mortal sin.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd also only heard the "in vain" version prior but every list I can find of all sins says "swearing an oath" and doesn't specify the intent behind it.

I even found the passage James 5:12 which states: "Above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear—not by heaven or by earth or by anything else. All you need to say is a simple “Yes” or “No.” Otherwise you will be condemned."

Seems to condemn all oath swearing of any kind on anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

I've always found it interesting that affirmation is seen as the secular alternative to swearing on the Bible, when it's actually some branches of Christianity that are most vehemently opposed to swearing oaths. I don't know where swearing on the Bible even came from if the Bible is so clear about it. Did the church ever condone it or was this something thought up by vaguely religious politicky types who wanted a serious promise no-take-backsies style and didn't ask the cleric if it was alright?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

that's really interesting. Apparently I'm going to hell for joining the cub scouts (boy/girl scouts for people under 13 iirc) 😔

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious if "pledging allegiance" would also count. In which case, everyone in the US who had to pledge allegiance to the flag in school is fucked!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago

oh that's amazing. I'm gonna use that on some people I know the next time they pipe up about me wanting a small frog tattoo. Thanks!

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 1 points 23 hours ago

I am a vain jangler and it's pretty fun

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A marriage proposal, most likely

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

But then the fornication wouldn't be a sin :/

[–] toynbee 5 points 1 day ago

Depends on the recipient. I have some friends who would be very into this discussion and some who, if they responded at all, would probably just call me a nerd or something.