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The reverse of that post I've made a week ago...

Rules: pick one movie or series and explain why you actually enjoyed it despite the criticism.

For me: The JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, by far the best ST stuff ever made, I couldn't take seriously the original universe with the dated effects and stiff acting, same goes for NG... These movies did ST actually great looking and much more believable, not just the effects.

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[–] spittingimage 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Zardoz. Say what you will about Sean Connery running around in a bright red romper, it was original.

[–] bitchkat 9 points 1 day ago

I thought Waterworld was fine.

[–] D1G17AL 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Super Mario Bros. with Bob Hoskins and John Leguizamo. I don't care how bad it is. It's in the campy so-bad it's good pool of movies and nothing anyone says can change my mind. The fact that they were drunk off their asses just makes it even funnier in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I saw that shit in theaters. Also Final Fantasy Spirits Within.

Neither time did I fully comprehend what I had just witnessed.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I'm not even going to call it a guilty pleasure, but Josie and the Pussycats was a movie that I genuinely adored long before people started to appreciate it for the satire that it is.

As a CIS male I got endlessly mocked, but I stuck to my guns.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not sure if it was HATED, but Hook if we're going by reviews. I can't imagine any kid seeing that movie and not loving it though.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Jupiter's Ascending.. it was nice 👍

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Waterworld and Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.

Waterworld is ocean Fallout and RHPoT is fucking meme central. Plus RH is my childhood nostalgia movie, I've probably watched it over a couple hundred times just on VHS.

[–] coriza 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Waterworld is Mad Max on a boat

The pitch was probably something like "What if Mad Max but instead of sand we have water?" And the producer guy would be something like "Will the people still be dirty even with all that water?" And the screen writer guy: "Wouldn't be an post apocalyptic world if the people is not dirty"

[–] MidsizedSedan 6 points 2 days ago

I grew up with Men in Tights. My room mate grew up with Spaceballs. It was really fun to swap movies and show each other another Mel Brooks movie.

(If you dont treat those titles and movies, that sentence has a very different meaning)

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[–] tehmics 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a non-fan, I thought the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies were well received. All the casual trek fans around me seemed to like them, at least

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[–] Rooty 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Postman. Compared to other post apocalyptic cheese fests it feels like a more nuanced display of societal breakdown and the re-emergence of the barter economy.

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[–] AdolfSchmitler 31 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Wild Wild West has a 16% on Rotten Tomatoes but I genuinely enjoy that film. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen also at 16% and also a movie I enjoyed

[–] Landless2029 4 points 1 day ago

Fun fact. Will Smith passed up playing Neo in the Matrix for WWW. I think we got the better deal but it's fun to picture it.

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[–] Matriks404 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Batman v Superman and Justice League (I didn't watch original versions though).

[–] surph_ninja 2 points 1 day ago

That’s an important distinction. The director’s cuts were worlds better than the originals.

[–] surph_ninja 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lucy.

It’s a really fun action/sci-fi flick. I don’t know why people dismiss it for being scientifically inaccurate. Who went into it thinking it was realistic? LoL.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Who doesn't like Lucy?

[–] psion1369 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Johnny Mnemonic. Keanu cannot act for shit in it, the story isn't exactly gripping, hell the action in it is somewhere in the shitter. Oh, and Henry Rollins is a nerdy doctor. All if it adds up to a campy trip of slop that triggers my guilty pleasure.

[–] Landless2029 2 points 1 day ago

Watching this as a kid that scene where he puts on cyber gloves and hacks his own brain was a wild ride. It's so ridiculous but still better than much of the "hacking" Hollywood depicts as far as entertainment goes.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Norm MacDonald's Dirty Work is actually pretty funny.

[–] wolfpack86 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

TV, but same idea...

I didn't particularly hate Dexter season 5. The later seasons were worse, and of course it doesn't hold a candle to season 4... But I just don't get the flat out hate. It was fine, and I kinda liked it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Star Wars Ep 1 gets more hate than it deserves. It's not a masterpiece by any means, but it's enjoyable.

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[–] Clbull 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wouldn't say really enjoyed, but Cats didn't deserve the hate it got. I saw it with my (then) girlfriend about five years ago when Frozen 2 was sold out and we had the choice of seeing this, Star Wars Episode IX, or Jumanji: The Next Level instead. We chose Cats.

I'm gonna ignore the elephant in the room that's the atrocious CGI, and say that Tom Hooper didn't do a terrible job besides that. Most of the movie adaptations of each song were at least on-par with the musical. 'Jellicle Songs For Jellicle Cats', 'Bustopher Jones' and 'Skimbleshanks The Railway Cat' were the three that stood out as the movie's best songs.

Only three songs were far worse than the musical, and they were big ones...

The Old Gumbie Cat was awful. Rebel Wilson absolutely butchered Jennyanydots by portraying her as a fat lazy glutton, complete with awful voice, awful ad-lib jokes thrown around the song and a part where she literally starts munching on CGI humanoid cockroaches marching around the dinner table. I mean... as much as I hate James Corden, he at least played the role of Bustopher Jones (a literal aristocratic fat-cat) really well, and unlike Wilson, his ad-libs were actually funny. I'd keep him in the cast, 100%.

The Rum Tum Tugger is another bad one. Jason Derulo's vocal performance was really weak, but I don't have much else to say about it.

Magical Mr Mistoffelees was the worst though. Hooper legitimately took the most iconic song from Cats and massacred it by portraying the titular musician who ultimately saves Old Deuteronomy as a nervous wreck. This is one that the Rum Tum Tugger should have sang, like in the original West End/Broadway musical. I got what he was trying to do with this decision but it just didn't work.

If I were in Tom Hooper's shoes, there are four things I'd change:

  1. Redo the CGI
  2. Replace Rebel Wilson with Lea Michele. She is probably one of the best actresses who could play Jennyanydots.
  3. Replace Jason Derulo with Brendon Urie. Imagine Panic! At The Disco's frontman singing the Rum Tum Tugger and Magical Mr Mistoffelees. 'Nuff said...
  4. Redo the three bad songs listed above to make them more like the musical.
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I really like Alien: Covenant. Micheal Fassbender is fantastic in that movie.
Awesome cinematography, awesome vibe, awesome creatures and Aliens, and a fantastic ending.\

It’s my second favorite Alien movie.
Okay, thanks to that statement the flamethrowers are gonna come out; let me explain:

  1. Alien is a nigh untouchable masterpiece.
  2. Alien: Covenant
  3. Aliens is a good movie. I don’t quiet like it as much as an Alien-Movie and also am generally not that big of a fan as quite a lot of people seem to be.
  4. Alien Romulus. Okay, nice movie I guess. The are some plot holes like: How do they know Ridley threw the Xenomorph out of the airlock? She is still in Cryosleep. But generally quite enjoyable. Jumping Facehuggers are a nice touch.
  5. Prometheus. I also don’t dislike this one. Even though they got lost in the weeds on this one a bit.
  6. ……
  7. ……
  8. ……
  9. Alien 3: Bad.
  10. Alien Resurrection: Utter Garbag.
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I won't go as far as to say Alien 3 was good. But I will say this:

Alien 3 was exactly the movie that it had to be in order to end the original trilogy properly from a story/thematic perspective.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Matrix 2 & 3. I don't see, or watch, them as separate movies. Rather, together with Matrix 1, they form one big masterpiece for me. But I can see that it doesn't really fit the 100 minutes format audiences came to expect, and breaking it in three parts did not do it any good. Plus, I guess I'm just a fan of long movies as I've also sat through the original, restored "Until the End of the World," which runs for about 5 hours.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I mean, 2 and 3 are also largely a deconstruction of 1. The Matrix is an incredibly well made movie with really stupid themes. 2 and 3 do an excellent job highlighting why stuff like "Neo is the Chosen One" is fundamentally bad storytelling, but there were a lot of audiences who loved The Matrix fully and completely. I can understand why those people were disappointed when 2 and 3 weren't just more senseless violence in black trenchcoats, but ultimately the series wasn't made for them.

IIRC, 2 and 3 were meant to be one film, but it got split due to studio meddling. I wonder if there is a mega-cut adapting the whole trilogy into a single runtime.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

The Prince of Persia movie. Also God's of Egypt.

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