Got kicked off reddit. But also fuck Reddit for the api change. I just wish the communities had more traffic like reddit
this post was submitted on 01 Jan 2025
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I was one of the leaders of the big fuck spez on r/place, would have been a bit hypocritical if I'd stuck around after the that.
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the API fiasco.
This was the same reason for me.
When they nuked third party apps. For a long time I used the official app, then I switched to 3rd party, nd I couldn't go back
It seems like most people joined Lemmy for the 3rd party apps. I admit I am not familiar with reddit 3rd party apps and what they do in terms of functionality, I'd love if someone explained them to me
The goal of 3rd party apps is to do what's best for the user so they continue to use their app
The goal of Reddit's official app is to do what's best for Reddit
It's possible to expand on the functionality but that's the fundamental misalignment on priorities regarding users
They're just apps not made by Reddit, but made by Reddit users, some of which were paid. And many which were significantly better and more reliable than Reddit's.
A quick example on Lemmy just with the web, these are all lemmy.world but different UIs:
- https://a.lemmy.world/ - Alexandrite UI
- https://photon.lemmy.world/ - Photon UI
- https://m.lemmy.world/ - Voyager mobile UI
- https://old.lemmy.world/ - A familiar UI
And that one too: https://tesseract.dubvee.org/
And that's just the web browser ones, there's a bunch for iOS and Android too. Reddit had even more.
A good app that matches your style of scrolling really makes a difference.
The Official client was mid at best and hundred of thousands of people where on various third party apps.
Then Spez wanted to sell API access to train AI so it became prohibitively expensive for most third party reddit clients to continue.
So I didn't want to use their app and on top of that it was to sell my data to AI businesses.
I actually wanted to nuke all my comments to be sure they couldn't use them but didn't manage to do it reliably.
But yeah the fact that they completely killed the reddit client I used just to sell my data for AI training was the last straw for me.
Also reddit was getting quite toxic especially in some subreddits IMO.
They literally acquired the Alien Blue client, which at the time was the best Reddit client according to many people, and used it as the base for their official client. How on earth did they fuck it up this badly??
I never used Apollo since I was stuck on Android. But I still wish I had the chance to use it while it was available.
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I used Apollo to browse Reddit. It was really a great app, and it made browsing Reddit enjoyable. The dev, Christian, listened to his users, frequently updated and improved the app, was active in the subreddit, and seemed to care about making it a positive experience. It really was like being a part of a club.
It wasnβt just that Reddit shut down the API, but the way they boldfaced lied about Christian and their interactions with him. He was feverishly in talks with them to save the app, but Reddit not only wasnβt negotiating in good faith, but even worse, lying about the interactions to try to smear Christian and make him look like the villain. It was then that I knew that Reddit would never be the same, and I started looking for alternatives.
I tried several, but Lemmy seemed to be the closest to Reddit and scratched the itch. Not only that, an amazing dev created Voyager, which is heavily inspired by Apollo, (pretty much a direct copy), and makes me feel at home. Thereβs not as many communities here as subreddits over there, but I have curated a great Home feed, which includes most of my interests and that I enjoy browsing. I can honestly say the comments here are much better and more authentic. On the whole I get real replies and have better conversations instead of trolls and confrontations like I frequently did at Reddit. I do stop in over there sometimes out of boredom and browse, but itβs really not the same as before. (And maybe it is, and I was just fooling myself and not seeing it.) I donβt think Iβve posted or commented on Reddit since Apollo died except on live sports game feeds, which I do miss over here. I found a regional instance that I like, and, on the whole, I really enjoy it here.
TLDR: API killed Apollo.
Same journey for me. Digg > Reddit > Lemmy. I do need leave .world though.
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In no particular order as to why I left Reddit to join Lemmy:
- Reddit became a chore just to see good content. (This is even after the fact of filtering out unrelated or unwanted subreddits in my feed.)
- The comment sections on Reddit became worse and worse with more joke/meme comments than actually related comments, low effort comments, bot spam, and the burial of your comment for no one to see, (or care to reply to,) if you were to comment on a post or comment more than 24 hours after it's original posting. (Most of the time it felt like you had maybe 8 hours before it seemed to be a waste to comment.) Why would anyone stick around to comment or reply if nearly no one is going to engage?
- (Like many others have mentioned in the comments,) if you mentioned or talked about anything that wasn't considered good, you were often blasted with downvotes and/or comments.
- How often you saw rinse and repeat content, questions, and sometimes comments. (I'll admit. I took part in the rinse and repeat content 'sharing' and I wish I hadn't done it for so long. The karma whoring was real for me.)
- Concerns (then later the reality check,) about how much Reddit is an echo chamber.
- /u/Spez showing us who he really is.
- Not liking the direction Reddit was heading. Writing on the wall when they fired Victoria Taylor
- The API fiasco.
- Movement towards IPO.
Lemmy doesn't have any of these problems that I've experienced. Lemmy feels very much like a grass roots movement and I like that. I wish the communities that I am a part of had more active users, but that will more likely come with time.
I got banned from reddit for saying the genocide in Gaza was bad.
I got banned for saying Israel was a fascist state and this was years before the current genocide started. Zionists have infiltrated that platform good and proper.
Most of us kinda didn't realize that Israel is a disgusting abomination until Oct 7th
These parasites really crossed some lines
Never again π€‘
I believe the politically correct term to appease the only "acceptable" narrative is war not genocide to describe a very clear targeting of Palestinian children Tsk Tsk for you not knowing it's common knowledge at this point /s
I came over with everyone else in the big exodus wave from Reddit when they killed third party apps.
I didn't even use a third party app so it didn't affect me, but as an old-school Internet user I believe in federated networks over centralized services and it seemed like the one opportunity to finally get critical mass.
Iβm the same but I used Apollo, and the ads + principle of what they did drove me away permanently And I scrambled all my comments
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Had my account permabanned on Reddit by mods on a power trip.
Then they cut third party support so my app stopped working.
Centralised Social media is a disaster waiting to happen. You just can't trust corporates. They will be corrupted eventually.
I saw it as an open source Reddit alternative a few years ago and signed up, then left and went back to Reddit because nobody was using it. Then the API stuff happened, some Reddit users switched to Lemmy so I've been browsing it now, switched between a few instances and am now back here.
(I do wish it had more communities for specific topics and locations like Reddit has, and ironically a lot of FOSS discussion is still on Reddit also.)
ironically a lot of FOSS discussion is still on Reddit also.)
Bromies love their chains
Reddit killed RIF. I'd already been looking into Lemmy, leading up to the day, but once my app stopped working, I switched to Jerboa and made a Lemmy account.
...didn't stay on Jerboa long
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Reddits CEO.
Reddit just isn't fun without Reddit is fun.
I still have RiF installed for the nostalgia.
Bias for FOSS
I might sound illeterate but what is Foss?
Free and open source software
Free open source software
~~User can audit the code π€‘~~
User relies on some tech bro to audit the code but hey at least there is some transparency
Fuck u/spez
This. Lying bastard.
I like open protocols and free software, and during the API exodus there was finally enough content that I wanted to jump ship.
of course I had annoyances with reddit, but I have annoyances with Lemmy too.
it's still preferable imho
API debacle. Went from Apollo for Reddit to Voyager for Lemmy
Reddit is heavily American-centric.
At least on Lemmy, there can be multiple communities with the same name with different rules, focus, region, and culture.
Started on Digg moved to reddit when Digg shot itself in the foot moved to lemmy when reddit shot itself in the foot. I will say I post and comment way more on here. Than I ever did on digg and reddit combined. This place feels more like old school forms than social media. Where people come out of the woodwork to be jerks. Ether because your views don't match theirs or you get some spelling or grammar that's not 100% perfect vs just engaging with your ideas for a constructive discussion. I can't tell how many times I have come back to a reply and gone " you make a good point." on lemmy.
I was already on Mastodon when the API price increase thing happened on reddit and my favourite client (infinity) became useless. I wasn't going to use the bloat-fest that is the reddit app, so I switched to Lemmy in "protest". Now I'm using eternity (a fork of infinity) and I have found a place in this community where I'm incredibly happy. I'm never going back to that shithole and I don't miss anything from there. There's a lot of karma-farming and every single person there reads exactly the same. There's no real discourse. The only times I use it (and through a web browser) is when I'm looking for solutions to some tech-related issue, and that is, if I haven't found the solution here already.
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I always wanted more decentralized alternatives. But none of them ever had any real users, then June 12, 2023 happened and I found out about this, that everyone is going to. And actually not a dead platform.
Also, booty: [email protected] (blocked by lemmy.world instance)
Reddits idiotic moderation
Reddit being ass
The self-destruction of Reddit and the much greater toxicity. Leftist communities here are far more chill than Reddit as well.
Spez
I used Boost for Reddit but well, we know how that went. I really loved Boost. The dev pivoted to Lemmy, so I did as well. So far the experience has been pretty solid.
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Reddit is becoming WAY too nazi like. Say something that goes against they ideas and views? banned. fuck those fat fucks.
I wanted to keep using Sync for Reddit and or Boost for Reddit, both clients were built for Lemmy now (as of this message Sync is quite broken though).
Even when I can keep using Sync for Reddit patched with Revanced I truly enjoy using clients such as Voyager (I missed Apollo a lot when I went from iOS to Android) and Summit, Eternity is a good alternative too.
IMHO Summit stands the best because it is the smoothest and behaves almost as good as Sync for Reddit did in its prime.
Joined about a year or two before the reddit API fiasco.
- I really don't like ads+tracking and didn't want my posts supporting a company like reddit
- I'm an advocate of FOSS
- reddit has inherent pressures to censor content based on mass media pressure and profit, and to permit anti-social far right trolls
- reddit punishes proxy users, where many instances here allow me to protect myself while posting here
- didn't like the new reddit layout - even before I came here, I was lurking for a year or two on alternate frontends
- I believed federation was a good strategy at building a better reddit alternative
But also, it actually had some communities at the time. If it were more dead, or unfederated, I'm not sure if I would have put as much effort in building communities.
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