Just as soon as people quit pissing on it.
I supposedly go to work in a building with other adults.
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Men who stand to piss has never had to clean the bathroom. It's standard in Germany to sit when pissing. It's also healthy for men, so if you're standing, especially at home, sit the fuck down!
I clean my bathroom, and stand to pee. It's fine.
I'm a man who both stand and clean my own toilet, sorry if your preconceptions are wrong.
I'd recommend that you sit, just because it's healthier for you. But you do you!
A source for this claim might help your case.
For the 1st one:
Eleven articles were included. In men with LUTS, a significantly lower PVR (−24.96 ml; 95%CI −48.70 to −1.23) was shown in sitting position compared to standing. In accordance, Qmax was increased (1.23 ml/s; 95%CI −1.02 to 3.48), and TQ was decreased (−0.62 s; 95%CI −1.66 to 0.42) in sitting position, although these differences did not reach statistical significance. In healthy men, Qmax (0.18 ml/s; 95% CI −1.67 to 2.02), TQ (0.49 s; 95%CI −3.30 to 4.27) and PVR (0.43 ml; 95%CI −0.79 to 1,65) were similar in sitting and standing position.
So that others don't have to go read it to find out, LUTS is Lower Urinary Tract Symptoms. Right off the bat, if you don't have a LUTS, this doesn't appear to apply to you. Further, it even says there was no statistical significance for those with LUTS or healthy men.
The conclusion:
For healthy men, no difference is found in any of the urodynamic parameters. In patients with LUTS, the sitting position is linked with an improved urodynamic profile.
For the 2nd, I didn't get past the title:
Urine Is Not Sterile: Use of Enhanced Urine Culture Techniques To Detect Resident Bacterial Flora in the Adult Female Bladder
This seems to be about female bladders. I could be wrong here but I do think we were talking about males standing to pee. The words "sitting", "standing", and "male" make no appearance in the study.
This is a strange topic to have such a strong opinion about to have no good proof for.
So standard that they had to have an influence campaign to shame men into "sitz pickling" in homes.
I'm saying this as a man sitting on a toilet peeing at this very moment, so I'm all in favor. But I think the other commenters should know the history.
Personally I'm in favor of sitting when plumbing is involved, and standing out in nature.
Healthier how? I also clean and stand, and put the seat down to flush.
You seem quite passionate about this?
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sit the fuck down!
Nein!
Men standing to pee is not nearly as bad as women who hover.
Don't tell me what to do
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As much as Toto charges for these, I don't think they should be defeated by toilet paper. Do better.
How on Earth does a toilet seat get scratched from TP?? Are the seats made with super shitty material or is the toilet paper the ass-tearing sandpaper kind?
Even normal tp and tissue fibers are actually surprisingly hard. For example if you wear glasses you should not use tissues to wipe the glasses because it will eventually damage the coating. Something like a cotton T-shirt will be more friendly to your glasses (but it's probably not a good idea to wipe a toilet seat with your t-shirt)
Then why do we use them on our assholes? Are we stupid? (don't answer that)
Then why do we use them on our assholes?
The epithelial cells keep reproducing, so any cells your tear off while wiping gets replaced.
But I still concur: it's 2025, we sent people to the moon almost 60 years ago, we built a world wide computer network, and I can watch porn on a little plastic rectangle, using wireless headphones, so nobody notices that I'm jerking off on the bus (ok, that last part isn't true, they definitely did notice, and I'm not allowed to drive the school bus anymore /s) ... still though, we've come so far, and we're still wiping our asses with dried tree mush? Wtf? At least we're not using the toilet brush like the Romans, but how about we tried something other than scraping feces from our skin? Maybe a build in bidet? I have never found them in the wild, but when I do, I can guarantee that I'm trying out the warm water and blow dryer options... Maybe while using my wireless headphones and plastic rectangle ;-)
Are we stupid? (don't answer that)
Yes (sorry, too stupid to understand rhetorical questions)
The same reason you don't open letters or cut open cartons with your kitchen knives, also the same reason your kitchen knives should never end up in your dishwasher.
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Haha shitty toilet seat
I knew I should've worded it differently...
paper cuts
But what kind of toilet paper gives one paper cuts?
A4
Fun fact: A4 is literally an acronym for "for anuses". It became more commonly used for writing because buttholes would use it for writing fanfics.
Fuck am i supposed to wipe them with, a microfiber cloth?
Skin
Oh god…
It's right there in the thumbnail. Just scoop up that pee and poo in your hand like our ancestors did
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If I shouldn't wipe the seat with toilet paper because it creates micro-scratches, what the hell does it do to my ass?! I don't want to risk scratches or discolouration either!
To be fair, your ass can likely heal micro scratches and your toilet seat probably cannot.
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If it cannot withstand paper, it cannot withstand underwear. This doesn't inspire me with security and reads more like the company trying to push away responsibility for cheap products and/or bad design. Toilets are nothing new, every country has at least a few.
* Pulls off mask, revealing "includes features like ... an air dryer".
Funny thing about air dryers and using them near plastics... Yeah, guys, to the people trying to argue that toiler paper is now sandpaper, one, I'm going to venture a guess that an air dryer does more damage, and two, I'm going to trigger you by telling you how I've been using toilet paper to clean my glasses and no problem, they even still have that blue surface level "anti-reflection" protection.
Am I to high or this toilet looks like head with open mouth ? edit: The thumbnail has somehow flipped shadow.
It looks like the face from Mars is enjoying his new job.
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“You’re doo-doo-ing wrong.”
In stead, bless the rains down in Africa. 60% of the time, it works every time.
why are people wiping toilet seats with toilet paper?
especially washlets where you're definitely sitting down to enjoy the seat heating??
Public japanese toilets have bathroom cleaner dispensers on the wall with a picture saying to use toilet paper to clean the seat. The Japanese are notorious for cleaning up after themselves, as well as having clean public facilities.
Example:
Too impatient to wait for the Japanese toilet to blow my freshly-bideted asshole dry, but polite enough to wipe up the questionably poopy water that drips from it when I stand up too soon.
why is the water still poopy?? rinse more!
and just use the TP to dab your butt dry, rather than letting it drip and then wiping up the drips!
When I go to a public toilet, I usually clean the seat with the spray hanging on the wall by using toilet paper.
Duh. Everybody knows you should use your tongue.
I got a woodstove recently and got the same warning about the glass door on the front. Don't clean it with paper towels or it will scratch up the glass. They recommend using newspaper instead.
For those who are surprised at the hardness of toilet paper and or paper towels, find a bare aluminum object and rub toilet paper or paper towels on its surface. Really hard with a lot of pressure. It won't take much for black swarf to become visible on the paper as a fine black powder of aluminum is ground off.
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