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[–] [email protected] 116 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The gift is that the flags will be at half-staff for Inauguration Day. It’s not an actual gift, just a coincidental middle finger.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

Thanks... It's not an actual headline, just intentional clickbait.

[–] Rapidcreek 69 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's only fitting that our flag should fly at half mast on January 20th.

[–] Bahnd 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Staff... You put flags on staffs, masts are on ships...

Ahh... There is literally a city called Flagstaff...

/s

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Only in America. And only in the 20th century. A mast is a vertical pole or structure. A staff is a handheld pole. We still have radio masts and masts on top of cranes. Flags fly from masts on land all the time. A ship's mast is called a mast because it's a big vertical pole. Somebody in U.S. got confused by this and insisted that flags fly on staffs (staves) on land.

eta: In American English, a flag flown halfway up its flagpole as a symbol of mourning is at half-staff, and a flag flown halfway up a ship’s mast to signal mourning or distress is at half-mast. The distinction does not run deep, though, as the terms are often mixed up, especially in unofficial contexts.

Outside North America, half-staff is not a widely used term, and half-mast is used in reference to half-raised flags both on land and at sea. Half-mast is also preferred in Canada for both uses, though half-staff appears more frequently there than it does outside North America.

Source: https://grammarist.com/usage/half-mast-half-staff/

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

As a Canadian, this is the first time I heard the term half-staff, while I've heard half-mast numerous times. So I believe it's much more an American thing and not a North American thing.

[–] BugKilla 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Having worked with Americans (US) for many years I think it is more of a doubling down on being wrong and just committing to it out of sheer bloody mindedness. Like the "tabling" something nonsense.

[–] BugKilla 2 points 2 days ago

Tabling something everywhere else means to put a topic into discussion immediately. Seppos think it means to discuss later or postpone.

Note: I use seppos affectionately of course.

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 2 days ago

Wait, there is a history to tabling I don't know about? Do tell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I wish it were true, but Americanism have been creeping into our English for years. The Senate finally stepped in a few years ago to clarify this issue: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-debate-is-over-senate-of-canada-says-its-half-mast-not-half-staff-when-lowering-flags

But you can still find documents where CBC was confused on the issue: https://www.cbc.ca/news2/indepth/words/flagflap.html

The other one that drives me nuts is the insistence that only physicians can use the honorific of "doctor". It's actually become part of the Globe and Mail's style guide.

[–] booganiganie 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks Dr Bob!

[–] TomMasz 57 points 3 days ago (5 children)

“Melania and I are thinking warmly of the Carter Family..." - no, you're not. You've never thought of another person in your entire life.

[–] WaxiestSteam69 6 points 2 days ago

Oh he's thought of other people. Just with contempt or disdain. He's the victim remember.

[–] TriPolarBearz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whenever I see a word ending in -ly now, I think of a random start up company.

Warmly sounds like a heating company...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Lol, I've used a web service monitor platform called Wormly before.

[–] ghewl 5 points 2 days ago

The likelihood that he even wrote that message is pretty slim. He’s got people to come up with statements.

[–] sartalon 5 points 3 days ago

I read that and thought, "JFC, he finally hired and let a competent person steer his social media content!?"

[–] Tyfud 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago
[–] WaxiestSteam69 1 points 2 days ago

I'm sure there is much disdain for taking some of the limelight.

[–] Tylerdurdon 30 points 3 days ago

Donny is a "flag at half mast" kinda guy so this will be a fitting start to a limp 4 years.

[–] Tarquinn2049 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The funny thing is most presidents wouldn't be bothered by it, it's an honorable thing to do, but we know it's gonna bother trump, no matter how many times people tell him what honor is, it's never gonna sink in. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised it he tries, or even succeeds, at getting them raised for his inauguration.

[–] CharlesDarwin 2 points 2 days ago

You can be sure that donvict will be a snowflake about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Watch Trump ignore this tradition.

[–] jordanlund 8 points 3 days ago

Better than even odds Trump ignores this on 1/20.