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I just watched this movie. It’s so bad! Why? What am I missing?

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on the viewer’s tastes. It was hilarious to me personally. The overly serious way he describes his metrosexual routine, the importance of the quality of business cards, etc. The horror aspect and gore takes a backseat for me and I view it as a comedy.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 weeks ago

I always thought that was the point of it. To be comment on the absurdity of stereotypical businessmen of the time. All wearing the same "uniform," using the same business cards, indistinguishable from one another.

[–] Skanky 44 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

To really really love this film, you kinda have to be familiar with the era that this film came from. Specifically, the absolute love of money=success of the yuppie culture of the 80's. Also, ultra violence was a big thing in movies from that time.

[–] reddig33 8 points 2 weeks ago

For more context, watch Oliver Stone’s “Wall Street” with Michael (greed is good) Douglass.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you don’t like Huey Lewis and The News?

[–] BassTurd 28 points 2 weeks ago

Their early work was a little too new wave for my taste. But when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism... that really gives the songs a big boost.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Feels like Fight Club to me where there is a subset of young men who like it, not recognizing it's a parody. Then there's people who get it and like it as a comedy. And the obviousness of which is which is not always clear, so you will never see me talking about whether I like it or not because it invites the first type.

[–] reddig33 12 points 2 weeks ago

The not getting that you’re being called out for loving the violence and fascism part of the movie reminds me of Verhoven films like “Starship Troopers” and “Robocop”.

[–] bcgm3 11 points 2 weeks ago

Big overlap with the "I liked Rage Against The Machine, until they started getting political" crowd.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

I like vanilla, some people like chocolate

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don’t really remember it, so I guess it isn’t very memorable. It seems not to have been especially praised by critics, nor by the author. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Psycho_(film)#Reception

Original author [Bret Easton] Ellis said, "American Psycho was a book I didn't think needed to be turned into a movie", as "the medium of film demands answers", which would make the book "infinitely less interesting". He also said that while the book attempted to add ambiguity to the events and to Bateman's reliability as a narrator, the film appeared to make them completely literal before confusing the issue at the very end.

[–] 474D 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's just fun to see Christian Bale convincingly play a psychopath lol

[–] reddig33 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You can also see him play a psycho behind the scenes of “Terminator Salvation”.

[–] sanguinepar 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I watched it for the first time the other day. I didn't hate it, but it wasn't at all what I expected, and I'm kind of surprised it has the profile it does. I quite liked the ambiguity of a lot of it though.

Interested to see what responses you get here.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t hate it. It’s just a massive let down.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What about it was a let down to you? To me, there's so many quotable moments and the acting is great. The whole thing is dark as hell while somehow being hilarious. It even leaves some things open to interpretation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is from me in another thread:

Many things taken together: The message is too “in your face”. The comedy is weak. The story not engaging enough, lots of false starts but no follow through.

The acting is good though, and there were some tits. Overall 2/5. Not bad enough to matter, just “meh”. Which is why it confuses me that it enthralled so many people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Totally fair. Out of curiosity what movies are your favourites? I assume a Clockwork Orange given your username, which I fully endorse haha. Great movie

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh, tough one. A clockwork orange is certainly up there. 2001 is also another great one. “The man who wasn’t there” is a neo noir gem that’s underrated and I keep coming back to — most of the time watching desaturated in black and white. Alien, Blade Runner, and Her tied for sci-fi (very different sub genres). The good, the bad, and the ugly. Requiem for a dream.

Damn, the list goes on and on. What about you?

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[–] lordnikon 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do you find bad about it? Do you have specifics?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Many things taken together: The message is too “in your face”. The comedy is weak. The story not engaging enough, lots of false starts but no follow through.

The acting is good though, and there were some tits. Overall 2/5. Not bad enough to matter, just “meh”. Which is why it confuses me that it enthralled so many people.

[–] lordnikon 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It maybe the time and place. Watching it now we might be too far away from the 80s to have it still resonate. Back in the 80s there was a few people like Bateman. So the commentary on the era while it was still fresh in memory that really added to the humor.

[–] TheBananaKing 10 points 2 weeks ago

This is an important point.

All texts (writing, film, other media) are constructed against their contemporary cultural context, and rely on that context to give them meaning.

Ever watch stand-up comedy from a decade ago? Even if you laughed yourself sick at it at the time... it ages extremely badly, since it's so intimately tied into the whole vibe of the time.

The more generic the work, the longer its use-by date - but of course, the less likely it is to be memorable.

After a time, all things die. And that's okay.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It reminds me of that Trump movie that came out recently. 80s Trump was exactly the kind of guy that Patrick Bateman is a parody of.

[–] lordnikon 3 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly perfect example people that are so insecure in who they are and lack any character they will kill to keep their delusions going.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You could try the book.. The movie is quite tame compared to the book though. It sketches a very detailed look into the time as well. Iirc there are about five pages in wich Bateman explains why he loves certain music albums. And of course his whole morning routine.. I really liked it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Gods no, I hated him explaining music in the movie. I get that it’s important to highlight how he’s just pretending to be human while parroting stuff some critic wrote, but ugh…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Buttoning up his raincoat while reciting a critique of Genesis, solid gold.

[–] LowtierComputer 12 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you feel it was bad?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago

For the memes.

[–] Valmond 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I read the book because I was a big bookworm and I had only that one book (was in another country, being poor).

So bad.

Just a really bad book with ultra violence added IMO.

The film is over quicker so IMO better than the book, which was about 500 pages too long.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Why do you think it's bad?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I recently watched the lion king and was whelmed.

Story telling has just evolved. The pacing of modern movies is more finely tuned. I can see how these movies used to be good but we're just spoiled by better movies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

wait you can be whelmed? I had never considered that I had only ever heard people say underwhelmed.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Whelmed is a perfect description for how I felt about many movies (thanks for that!), but this one just underwhelmed me.

[–] AgentGrimstone 5 points 2 weeks ago

I like some scenes but not the movie as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with you. Lots of people in this thread assuming you "didn't get it", even though the satire punches you in the face.

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