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[–] [email protected] 38 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Avatr is about capitalism

That wasn't glaringly obvious to everyone?

[–] hogmomma 9 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Like, to absolutely everyone? This ranks up there with "breathing is good."

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Holy shit! Avatar is about capitalism? How did I miss that?! I better rewatch it and see if it's a recurring theme.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] stupidcasey 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That’s just Evil, if we build an industrial park there where will the ~~slaves~~ ~~forced labor~~ ~~work bit*hes~~

*Due to recent very public events our Public relations officer has been sent on leave with pay instead Nataly will complete this statement.

That’s just Evil, if we build an industrial park there where will the (Checks Notes) Employees park there cars?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Nataly needs a spelling-checker. Also, a quick tutorial on comma splices wouldn't be wasted.

You know: grade school stuff.

[–] stupidcasey -2 points 15 hours ago

Thanks, I’ll remember that when I go to school… oh wait, I’m not in school anymore. I’m gainfully employed, get paid plenty, and nobody cares. Huh, it’s almost like the hyper-educated imposition placed on us by society is simply a form of control, gatekeeping, and self-aggrandizing and the people who spent more time studying than forming relationships wasted their time and are now disgruntled because they have to work harder than those who aren’t overly anal grammar Nazis.

[–] atocci 79 points 17 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Factorio.

The factory must grow.

[–] aesthelete 16 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I like to describe the aliens that attack you in factorio as environmentalists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Pollution actually makes the bugs stronger. Maybe they like pollution and want to go eat it all up.

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[–] Retrograde 5 points 12 hours ago

They hate that fresh, artisanal air

[–] Retrograde 6 points 14 hours ago

I just got done with an 8 hour factorio session so this meme resonated

[–] jewbacca117 23 points 17 hours ago

The factory must grow

[–] GreatRam 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I feel so bad cutting trees and draining lakes 😔

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

But your corporate overlords demand it, sadness isn't efficient, get back to work!

But really they did a great job with commentary. People still say "why can't we get green energy in the game?". Because that's not the point. This is raw capitalism. You're dropped on a pristine planet, destroy the environment, clear it of all natural resources. It's &meant_ to make you feel guilty. Maybe look around outside

[–] starchylemming 2 points 9 hours ago

i feel like the enviroment is into that shit

consume

[–] Zorque 2 points 14 hours ago

I thought we were saving kittens and puppies...

[–] egrets 31 points 16 hours ago

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

- Jack Handey

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 15 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I'm torn, because there's an idea that industrial capital only knows how to consume and destroy what it touches. And there's ample evidence to that effect.

But there's this other more naive notion that life never changes, species don't compete for habitat, and doing anything to alter the local ecology is this unforgivable sin. This, despite the fact that everything in the area is itself a product of eons of speciation and evolution and carnivorization.

The impulse to preserve has to be balanced with the expectation for change. The goal should be symbiosis, not stasis.

[–] FooBarrington 10 points 16 hours ago

The issue is that you're changing the ecosystems and environments so much that all those eons of evolution are simply lost. The only other times this happens is during natural catastrophes. Sure, in the long run this allows new life forms to take the old ones places, but it's still a massive loss of diversity and evolutionary knowledge - and unnecessary suffering for millions of living beings.

When species compete for a habitat, they rarely destroy it - and those species that do either don't survive for long, or they wipe out large swaths. We're actively killing almost anything in our habitats, and destroying them for almost all previous species.

[–] thawed_caveman 2 points 15 hours ago

The idea that nature is precious and must be preserved is human-centric.

Trees caused an extinction event when they appeared by absorbing all the carbon dioxyde and radically changing the atmosphere. But we feel bad when we're the ones doing it

[–] finitebanjo 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Does this imply communism wouldn't extract resources?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

That's what I was wondering. Capitalists didn't invent exploitation of nature, it just so happened that its worldwide adoption coincided with unprecedented technological advances. There's quite a few examples of historical societies that exploited nature as much as they could and suffered for it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Businesses under capitalism aren't required to pay for the externalities of their decisions. In a democratic economy, the people affected by corporate decisions would have a say in those decisions. It's reasonable to assume that people want to breathe clean air and continue to have food and water, so they'd support policies that do that.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 17 hours ago

Don’t forget about the part from the intro (might have been cut from the theatrical release):

They can fix a spine, if you have the money. But not from a VA check. Add $5 and you get yourself a cup of coffee.

[–] danc4498 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, they got whales? Let’s take their brain oil for eternal life!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 3 points 17 hours ago

The take on immortality in Avatar 2 is really interesting, because both sides get to have it.

spoilerBut on one side of the fence, you've got a familial connection that echoes through eternity with the spirits of one's family forever surrounding you and offering guidance.

On the other side of the fence you just have Eternal Employment, in which your immortal mind is a captive instrument for the profit of your masters.

One is this transcendent euphoric existence and the other is an allusion to hell itself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The realization that we probably wouldn't change how we are make me a bit glad we missed the chance to be a spacefaring civilization and are screwed here. The universe didn't need that, one planet ruined is enough.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I've found peace recently thinking about our blue planet. We may cause chaos for a bit, but in the grand scheme, it'll be fine. The rivers will run, the oceans will be blue, plants and animals will eventually, over tens of thousands of years and longer will be fine.

Humanity is fucked, we destroyed our chances because we as a society could never get over our greed, but the problems we cause will be temporary. Over time the planet itself will heal. We just won't be here for it.

That being said, it's why I'm choosing not to have kids.

[–] Darrell_Winfield 3 points 17 hours ago

Me landing on Gleba.

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