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Gizmodo regrets the error and the fact that our country is about to be run by vile billionaires who will enrich themselves even further.
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Gizmodo flying a bit close to the libel laws in that article.
Despite saying they can't confirm it's genuine, then saying stuff like " it’s pretty clear that Mangione was motivated by the tremendous injustices regularly perpetrated by the healthcare industry in the United States."
Was he? Did he write those words? Is he the shooter? Doesn't this kind of reporting compromise the chance of a fair hearing?
Surely he deserves the right to a trial before being found guilty, as per the Sixth Amendment?
I don't think this qualifies as a manifesto. Definition requires that it be public, not found on someone: A public declaration of principles, policies, or intentions, especially of a political nature.
The word “manifesto” makes it seem more sinister and clickable.
People call something a "manifesto" when they want to imply that it's a long rambling text written by a crazy person.
I personally think it still fits that definition
You have your own dictionary?
Side note:
It's good to see journalists willing to make a correction
Correction: This post originally stated that Elon Musk had donated over a quarter of a million dollars to elect Trump and other Republicans in last month’s election. It was over a quarter of a billion dollars. Specifically, $277 million, according to CBS News. Gizmodo regrets the error and the fact that our country is about to be run by vile billionaires who will enrich themselves even further.
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interesting that he mentions social engineering in the manifesto. makes me think he lured the CEO somehow and that's why he knew exactly when the target would be there. he waited for like 5 minutes before the CEO showed up, that was unrealistically precise if all you had was public information.
Stop making assumptions. The article is clear that we have 0 evidence that this is the actual.manifesto. at this point its just fanfic
it was released by a somewhat credible source and most aligned with the bits and pieces already released by the media. of course it could still be fabrication, but i'd say it's relatively safe to think it's real. hopefully i don't make fool out of myself...
It could simply mean he checked his public social media and knew where he would go. Social "engineering" can be as simple as a web search.
well that would tell him the conference starts at 8am or something. based on that he could guesstimate maybe the CEO will arrive 1~2 hours before. but to narrow it down to 5 minutes? i think he would need something more.
That's OSINT not SE
Its possible the author wasn't aware of the difference. And since the author was likely LE, it makes sense
I could stalk a lot of people with 5 min accuracy, easy. Most people have schedules and routines. It's not rocket science.
Or maybe he had more planned. He's vague about the scope of what he did, as if the letter were there in case he got caught at any point.
It would provide an explanation for him keeping the gun.
Funny how this is constantly being censored on reddit and likely other social media. I don't think the oligarchs like the message.
[ Removed by Reddit ] being on the frontpage for hours despite being expunged near-instantly is morbidly funny. The absence is speaking louder than the silence
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Look how the pig is squeezing his neck, pretty hard from the looks of it. If Trump or his cronies were ever arrested they would set up a press box and microphones
I'm astonished that this is the only comment about that, it's the first thing I noticed.
In modern societies that grip is reserved for violent junkies, wriggling and foaming at the mouth
Yet nobody blinks an eye
This is great stuff and he's set out a very clear blueprint for deterrance. He's putting Corporate America and Big Health Insurance on a PIP so looking forward to everyone doing better :)
Nice to finally throw their goddamn motherfucking bullshit rulebook right back at them and force a Medical New Deal on them
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Editorialized title. Please restore the original article title. He has not personally released or confirmed this document.
Edit: op has fixed the title
A manifesto supposedly found with him at the time of arrest has been "leaked" selectively without any confirmation from the man himself on whether it is legitimate or not. I still find the entire rapid stack up of evidence far too convenient for the police looking for an easy win to appease capitals interests in making an example out of a "fringe lone extremist".
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Quick and to the point. Is there anything this guy isn’t good at?
Disposing of murder weapons.
Literally parts of it were made in plastic and could have simply been burned lol
Controlling the media narrative. Or at least that's my fear. Just finished watching "Interior Chinatown" and surprisingly relevant commentary on the "media spectacle". It expects violence but it won't just let you tell your story.
Rowing, probably. Then again, core strength can lessen back pain. That's how I've managed a pinched disc.
Keeping a low profile while on the run, allegedly. :x
McDonald’s really should use this opportunity to release a “too irresistible” ad
You mean McDonald's competitors?
Hah! “No rats here. Burger King”
I assume the “Indecipherable” words are expletives? Maybe “fucking” and “assholes?”
Obviously, we'd need to see the handwriting, but just from context:
"United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart."
Should be "fourth". Fourth largest company. Unless he has a fun modifier on it like "fourth fucking" or "fucking fourth".
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I don’t think this is complete. I read that police found a 3 page manifesto. That’s a long paragraph at best.
I dont think this is even what police found. we have 0 evidence. The article makes this clear
Handwritten can sprawl real quick
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You're correct in that the NYPD said that it was a "handwritten, three-page document" -- I found it odd too -- but, the "document" could've been on one of those mini notebooks, or in large print, or scrawled.
From another perspective -- if the transcription is incomplete, then Klippenstein either (1) omitted text by his own hand, (2) could not acquire the entire document but was unaware that he hadn't, or (3) did not acquire the entire document but withheld his report's weakness of breadth.
I'm not sure Klippenstein's incompleteness is very likely
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What proof is there that this is legit? I've seen dozens of alleged versions of the manifesto. This one doesn't have any other source than "trust me, bro".
There isn't any proof. The article made this clear
I thought there was only one impersonation (which was attacked since it didn't have the quotes that the NYT had extracted from their unreleased copy).
About a possibility of a hoax: Klippenstein has a fairly reputable history of uncovering/reporting on leaks, but this situation is essentially a
Ken: Here's the document guys.
Other news websites: Looks like Ken has the document!
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