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[–] Glytch 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Unless you live in a "Right to Work" state, then you get to benefit from the work of unions without contributing any money to their efforts, much like a leech benefits from the blood production of the animal it attaches itself to.

[–] Gammelfisch 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not exactly, you will receive the prevailing wage, but not the full benefits package. No thanks to right to work, it's a big pile of bullshit too.

[–] Glytch 1 points 6 hours ago

Right to work is a way to hurt unions by starving them of dues.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

I think the comparison to a leech is accurate, as the leech does not know or understand it is a bloodsucking parasite, but continues to steal blood and nutrients, those ignorant of the work unions perform will benefit from them regardless of their contribution.

Rarely do you find someone who both genuinely understands what a union is for and declines to join when offered the opportunity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Reminder that the Christian Labour Action Coalition is not a union even if they say they are.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

at my job, you are covered by the union whether you pay dues or not

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

How does that work? Wouldn’t a lot of people just not bother paying?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Some countries are like that. There are pros and cons to it though. The unions are stronger when people bother joining.

Also, being covered by an agreement at your work is only part of what unions offer. They have other services for members, like getting your salary checked, legal support, salary insurance, various discounts for stuff, etc.

It might be tempting to save the membership fee, but don't be a leech. Someone worked hard to get the benefits for everyone. Join the union.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

i was a part of the union for several years, went to meetings and voted and everything. unfortunately i became disabled and the amount of medical bills etc became so overwhelming i had to cut everything i could. since i was still covered by the union, i had to make that choice for me, even tho it bothers me. I'm not a leech, just in an unfortunate financial position currently. $40 is a lot for some people, especially if they have mouths to feed :(

[–] Gammelfisch 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The anti-union Americans have a vacuum between their ears and enjoy 3rd World working conditions. F-them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Can we get refugee status in your country?

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This should be illegal to the point that whoever is responsible for this tweet should be jailed for st least 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Amazon paid someone/company to do this, then it definitely is illegal. But likely no jail for anyone, just minor fines chocked up to the "cost of doing business"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

And people will lap this up as a genuine Amazon worker. Disgusting.

[–] brucethemoose 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Except the king of disinformation bought Twitter. And “we” not only keep using it en masse, but basically elected him as president.

I dunno about the rest of the world, but the US is way past the event horizon, and the chance of ever arresting people like this is less than zero.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This whole election is nuts. RFK Jr. is gonna gut the FDA and NIH so they have to outsource more and draw more lawsuits which will feed his own stupid advocacy firm, or he'll switch his company over to consulting and score millions more by outsourcing the FDA to his own workers. And Elon is obviously going to benefit himself. And Trump is gonna wreak havoc on the economy in the long run with his tariffs if he's being serious, and his border policies are a disaster... this isn't going to go well.

[–] orrk 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the whole point is to kill the FDA and NIH

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

yeah that's what I just said. and its a bad idea. if you believe the government is inefficient, you don't just fire everyone lol. you work on a granular level to incentivize efficiency through policy adjustments.

The fact they're just planning on firing everyone is proof they're not interested in helping Americans. They just want to strain federal agencies to a point they have to outsource even more than they do. This way, these people retain power vai consultant firms etc. long after they step out of office.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

I mean, they'll probably get you more than your dues cost, by a lot... So, there's that...

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You'll get a lot more salary with Unions...

[–] Reygle 13 points 1 day ago

Hey now, yer fancy pants logic ain't wahlcome round these parts. - Muricuh

[–] Bytemeister 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was part of a union. I got paid minum wage. My manager was the union rep. I had to work a role that I was literally allergic to.

Despite this, I'm still pro-union. Just not that particular union.

[–] hogmomma 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I've never heard of management being in the same bargaining unit as the rank and file. Odd.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My manager was the union rep

I'm like 80% certain that's illegal basically everywhere innit? Conflict of interest

[–] Bytemeister 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure it was very illegal, and nobody did a thing about it.

[–] 13esq 2 points 22 hours ago

In my union, reps have to be put up for vote every three years, and if even after that you still don't like them, you have the option to go straight to your FTO.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a Single Mother With Two Children I am afraid that the Union will be bad, aktuly. Are you disagreeing with me? You simply don't understand what its like to be a Single Mother With Two Children. Why are you attacking me? I am a simple Single Mother With Two Children who is too weak and tired to argue with you.

As a Single Mother With Two Children I am just asking questions about why the Union is bad and now you, a big Pro-Union Thug, are hurting me and my Two Children who are very small and vulnerable.

Stop! Please! Help! The Union is Hurting Me! It's just as I anticipated!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] dejected_warp_core 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's such a laughably bad "unions bad" take. If there was such a thing as a kind of insurance where they fight to keep you employed, people would probably sign up and pay the fees.

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[–] [email protected] 230 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

When I was a union rep there would be people that would bitch about the $70 bucks a month or whatever the dues were. I would explain that without the union their pay would be far, far less (not even bringing up the benefits of work hours, vacation days and whatnot). Like the "all taxes are theft" morons, the words often fell on deaf and willfully ignorant ears.

[–] kautau 127 points 2 days ago
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[–] jaggedrobotpubes 139 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hate paying 10 dollars to get 25 dollars. The worst.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

It's not even just about money, and anyone who's worked a union job will tell you that. Many of the benefits of unions aren't completely measurable (e.g. correcting the balance of power in favor of workers, even if just a tiny bit).

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because these people don't see the bigger picture. They see they could get $35 if they didn't have to pay the union. What they don't see is that the union is the reason they're "getting" $35 and without the union they're definitely not going to get $35. And obviously any non-monetary benefit (such as more days off) goes way over their heads.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You earn more when a union fight for higher wages, union dues are negligible

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mine are $30/month but I make $10/hour more than the non-union crews.

[–] Quadhammer 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See but now I have to do basic as fuck math, and that's scary!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’ve paid your dues before lunch on the 1st

[–] frostysauce 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The extra money you make by being part of the union pays your dues before lunch on the 1st.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Yes. This is better phrasing of what I meant.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Even if it wasn't a bot, why is she mad at unions when she's barely scraping by? Unions would help her with that

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

could have been real because of some "ambassador" scheme they had where they'd hook a select few warehouse workers with social media handles to spread the propaganda

which only makes it more creepy if you ask me.

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[–] Buddahriffic 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What bothers me most about unions is the increased bargaining power labour gets when they work together. As a manager, my employer expects me to use every trick possible to pay those actually making the company run as little as possible and unions make it much harder to get my bonuses.

But I use one neat trick and pay the employees the money that then gets directed to running the union as a deduction from their paycheck and many of them don't even notice that the difference in overall take-home because of that increased bargaining power is higher than the union dues. They focus on the nickels and dimes and don't even notice the dollars!

And the fact that I need to meet certain criteria before I can fire them due to the union contact doesn't even show up on the paycheck--they often don't even think about it until it's too late!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Omg no /s you must be an evil manager

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